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Assalaamu alaikum TM aaj hum khaas kar haazir hain
aap subke aage kuch mazeed mangharat aqaaiyd
rakhne ke liye insha'ALLAH in tamaam baaton
se humen hidayat ka zariya milega so aaj ke mauzu hain
1..Dhamaal
2..Urs o Mela
3..Qabaron ki zyarat aur wahan tamasha
subse pehle bata dein ke hum inhen JIHALAT kyun keh rahe hain
1..ye ISLAM to kya hayadaar insaniyat ke bhi samajh se bahir hain
2..In harkaton me nuqsaan ke ilaawa kuch bhi nahin
3..ISLAM me door door tak inka zikr nahin
4..In melon me aadmi aurat ikhatte hote hain(hamesha)
5..Inse AULIYA ALLAH ki be hurmati hoti hai
6..ISLAM ka ghalat chehra auron ke aage peish hota hai
ab aayen baad jihalat ke ise biddat ki roh se dekhne
ALLAH ta'ala ki janib se jo tumhari taraf naazil kiya gaya hai
us ki pairwi karo,aur ALLAH ko chorh kar mangharat sarparaston ki
pairwi mat karo tum loug bohot hi kam naseehat pakarte ho
Surat al A'araaf,ayat#03
aur Hazoor e Aqdas Rehmat al alameen saww ka farmaan e mubarak hai
sub se behetter baat ALLAH ki KITAB hai
aur subse behetter rehnumaiy MOHAMMAD saww ki hai
aur subse bure amor biddaat hain aur har biddat
gumraahi hai
sahih Tirmadhi shareef
goya yeh bina mufti bane bhi pata lag raha hai ke ISLAM me biddat naami
kuch hota hai har biddat gumraahi hai aur biddat deen me kuch naye
kaam ko kaha jaata hai jese ke unme Dhamaal urs mela qabaron pe tamashe
shaamil hain
aur mere nazdeek in mangharat aqaaiyd ke wajoohaat yeh hain
1...JAAHIL LOUGON KO ULMA MAANNA
2...JAHILANA AQEEDE KO SAMAJHNE KE BAAD BHI USKI PAIRWI KARNA
3...BIN DALEEL E AYAAT O AHADEES KISI BAAT KO BHI SAHI JAAN LENA
5...APNE PEER KI JIHALAT SAAMNE AANE KE BAAD BHI BEHES KARNA
6...HAQ KO KISI SURAT TASLEEM NA KARNA
7...YE SOCH KAR CHUP REHNA KE JIHALAT TO SUB FIRQON ME HI HAI
8...DEEN KE MUAAMLE ME ANA PARASTI KARNA
9...ISLAM KO ULMA TAK MEHDOOD KAR DENA
10...YE AQEEDA AAM KARNA KE MURDE MARTE NAHIN
yaqeen karen jab hum in 9 nuqton me se eik per bhi
sabit e qadam rehna chorh dein to dar haqeeqat me
MUSALMAAN ban jaayen aur humaare tamaam jahilana
aqaaiyd khatam ho jaayen ab aapko dikhate chalen
ke aakhir yeh urs mela aur mazaraat pe hota kya hai
Urs ke haqaaiyq
Mazaraat per hinduiyat
mandir numa ghantiyan
Hu ba hu bhagwan
Dhamaal ki haqeeqat
mard aur aurat ikhatte kis tarah
ka dhamaal aur kahaan ka deeni hissa ??
Qabar ya Mehel ??
QAWAALI KE NAAM PER BE PARDAGI
Mazeed JIHALAT
doston aaj ke aksar naojawan Karachi Hyderabad
ki jaanib se bolte hain hum jaa rahe hain dargah per
urs hai urs hai aap dekhte hoge unhen theek tarah
se 6 kalimon ka naam tak yaad nahin hoga paanch
waqt ki namaz nahin parhte lekin in maqamaat per
yeh sub dekhne aur karne ke liye jaate hain sirf
aur sirf tafreeh ke naam per aur wahaan kya kiya jata hai
wo sub aap dekh chuke hain NAUZBILLAH aur uske
ilaawa bhi urs mela dhamal ka ISLAM se door door
tak koi rishta nahin albatta yeh dhamal hinduiyat se
MUSALMAANON me daakhil huwa hai jiska khaatma
zaroori hai aur insha'ALLAH eik din iska khaatma hoga
humare liye is se bachna laazmi hai kyunke
QURAN shareef me hai
Farma dijiye ke mere RAB ne sirf
be hayaiy ki baaton ko haram kiya hai
jo un me se zahir hon aur jo posheeda hon
aur gunah ko aur na haq zyadti ko aur is bat
ko ke tum ALLAH ka shareek thehrao,(aur)jiski
usne sanad nahin utaari aur ye ke tum ALLAH
per aisi baaten kaho jo tum khud bhi
nahin jaante
Quran surat al A'araaf,ayat#32
(again from Irfan ul Quran)
aur apne jaanne walon ko in biddaat se
bachaane ki poori koshish karen kyunke
QURAN AL HAKEEM me aaya hai
Beshak insan khassare me hai siwaye un logon ke jo iman le aaye
aur naik amal karte rahe aur eik doosre ko haq ki talqeen karte rahe
aur baahum sabar ki takeed karte rahe
Quran surat al Hummaza,ayat#2-3
ALLAH PAK humen haq ke raaste pe chalaye
HAQ baat karne ki sunne ki samajhne ki
karwane ki sunaane ki samjhaane ki bharpoor
quwwat himmat o taufeeq bakhsh Ameen .
Kiya baat hai Superb Thread and post aap ki mehnat ki daad deta hun saif mere chotay bhai Dil Khush Kardiya Itnay achay haq baat ko samnay lakar aapnay .. Abhi toh aap nay urs ki haqeeqat ka sirf 10% hissa dikhaya hai Aur bhi bht hi behoodgi hoti hai Astaghferrullah Pheli baat toh yeh hai ke Yeh mazaar banana hi haraam hai toh Baaki un per kiye jaanay walay kaam toh bas haram se bhi bht hi agay hain ... Jab Koi Quran Ki Ayaaat ko hi jhutla raha hai mazaar aur urs karkay toh Unka Imaan Kaise sahi hoga .. Allah humien aisii shirkiya jhagon se aur mushrik logo se dur rehne ki toufeeq ata farmaaye Ameen ...​
Mien Nafrat Karta Hun In Mazaaron se , Urs Se in ki Rasmon Se Yeh Sab Shetaaani Kaam Hain Allah InshaAllah Jald in ki Pakad Karega Aur Islam Jald Hi Pooori Duniya Mien Hukumat karegaa Aur Woh Din Door nhn hain inshaAllah ...​
Dil Khush HO gaya chotay bhai aap ki yeh thread aur mehnat dekh kar Allah Aap ko Ajar deiga inshaAllah Allah aap ko Istaqaamat Day Ameen ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355251069][/DOUBLEPOST]Gair ALlah Ko Pukarna Ya Allah Kay Siwa Kisi Aur Se Faryad Kuna hona Shirk Hai​
Waseela Ki Aik Simple Si Wazahat Mien Quran ki Ayat Se Kardeta hun :-
Logo Ka Aqeeda Hargiz yeh nhn Hota kay yeh kisi makhlooq ko paida kartay hain ya barish barsaatay hain ya angoor wagera Ugaatay Hain, Balkay woh ya toh in ki ibadat kartay Hain Ya in ki qabron ko poojtay Hain Ya in kay saamnay jhuktay hain aur woh yeh kiun kartay thay?
Quran Majeed Is ki Wazahat In Alfaz Mien Karta Hai :-
Surah Younus Ayat 17 :- Aur Yeh Loug ALlah Wahid ko Chor Kar , Aisii Cheezon ki ibadat kartay hain jo na un ko koi nafaa pohncha sakta hai na koi zarar Aur Kehte Hain Kay Yeh Allah Taalah Kay Pass Hamaray Sifarashi Hain.
(Is Ayat nay Waazeh Saabit Kardiya Kay Jo Loug Yeh Boltay Hain kay Hum toh sirf in ko sifarashi bana kay Yeh Allah Kay Wali Banday Hain Auliya hain In Kay Waseelay Se Allah se maangtay Hain Woh Galat Hain Aur Mushrik Loug Hain Allah Ho Akbar Ab Quran ki Ayat ko koi Jhutla kar phr wohi baat karay kay Kisi Murda Kay Waseelay Se Maanga ja sakta hai kiun kay woh Allah Ka Wali Hai Naik Banda hai Toh Woh Kufur per hai Mazeed Detail Kay Liye Agay Padhye )
Tashreeh / Tafseer of Ayat Number 16 - 18 Surah Younus ..
Chunachay Allah Nay Apnay Rasoolon Ko Mabuoos farma kar logon ko is baat se roka kay woh kisi dusre ko na pukara karain na duain Ibadat ki Soorat Mien Aur na Duain Istagasa ki soorat mien.(Kisi se Madad Talab Karnay ko Istagasa Kehte Hain)
Shaikh Ul Islam Rehmatullah Mazeed Farmatay Hain Kay Jo Shakhs Allah Taalah Aur Apnay Darmiyan Kisi Bhi Gair Allah ko Waseela Banaye , In Per Bharosa Karay In ko Pukaray Aur in se sawal karay woh shakhs baala ijmaa Kaafar Hai ".
Shaikh Ul Islam Rehmatullah Kay Shagird Ibn Qaim Rehmatullah Likhte Hain Kay Shirk Ki Iqsaam Mien se Aik Qisim yeh Bhi Hai Kay Insan Apni Zaruriyat Fout Shuda Auliya Allah Se Talab Karay , In kay Naam se istagaasa karay Aur In ki taraf poori tarah mutawaja ho jaye Haqeeqat mien yehi shirk ki jadd hai ..... Jo Shakhs Fout Ho Chuka Us Kay Aimal Munkatay Ho Chukay , Woh Toh Ab Apni Zaat Kay Nafaa Nuksaan Per Bhi Qudrat Nhn Rakhta Toh Doosron ki Zaruriyat Mien Kaise Kaam Ayega , un Ki Faryaad Sunay Ya Yeh Kahay Kay Kay Woh Allah Se Iski Sifarish Karay Ga , Yeh Sab Jahalat Ki Baatain Hain. Waqiya Yeah Hai Kay Taalib wa Matloob Aur Shaafay wa Mashfoo Dono Barabar Hain.
Ahnaaf Ki Mashoor Kitab Fatawa Albazaziya Mien likha hai kay Jo Shakhs Yeh Aqeeda Rakhta hai kay buzirgaan-e-Deen Aur Mashaaikh Ki Roohain Haazir Hain Aur Hamaray Baaray Mien Ilm Rakhti Hain woh kaafar ho jaata hai.
Shaikh Sanaullah Hanfi Rehmatullah Apni Kitab Mien Tehreer Kartay hain kay Dour-e-Hazir mien Musalamano Mien Kuch Garwa Is Qisim kay paida ho gaye hain jo yeh aqeeda rakhtay hain kay Auliya Allah Ko APni zindagi mien Bhi Aur Baad Az Wafat Bhi is aalam Mien Qudrat, tasaruf haasil hai aur shudaid wa bilyat mien un say istagasa aur ista'anat ki jasakti hai loug yeh aqeeda rakhtay huway un ki qabron per atay hain aur us haajaat rafayi karnay ki darkhuwast kartay hain kay yeh asshaab-e-karamat thay jo logon ki faryadain suntay hain aur in he per is nizaam ka daaromadar hai , in kay naam nazro niyaz bhi dete hain , janwar zibah kartay hain aur khayal kartay hain kay is se woh Auliya in ko mustehaq ajar dienge , Halankay Yeh woh aqeeda hai jis se na sirf Afrat wa tafreet he paayi jaati hai balkay is mien halakat hai aur azaab bhi hai kiun kay is mien khaalis shirk ki boo aati hai jo kitab Allah Kay Sahi Aur Waazeh Ahkaam Kay Sareeh Khilaaf Hai , Tamaam Ayemaa Karaam Kay Aqaaid se Mutsaadim hai aur ijmaah umat kay khilaaf hai.
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Kiya baat hai Superb Thread and post aap ki mehnat ki daad deta hun saif mere chotay bhai Dil Khush Kardiya Itnay achay haq baat ko samnay lakar aapnay .. Abhi toh aap nay urs ki haqeeqat ka sirf 10% hissa dikhaya hai Aur bhi bht hi behoodgi hoti hai Astaghferrullah Pheli baat toh yeh hai ke Yeh mazaar banana hi haraam hai toh Baaki un per kiye jaanay walay kaam toh bas haram se bhi bht hi agay hain ... Jab Koi Quran Ki Ayaaat ko hi jhutla raha hai mazaar aur urs karkay toh Unka Imaan Kaise sahi hoga .. Allah humien aisii shirkiya jhagon se aur mushrik logo se dur rehne ki toufeeq ata farmaaye Ameen ...​
Mien Nafrat Karta Hun In Mazaaron se , Urs Se in ki Rasmon Se Yeh Sab Shetaaani Kaam Hain Allah InshaAllah Jald in ki Pakad Karega Aur Islam Jald Hi Pooori Duniya Mien Hukumat karegaa Aur Woh Din Door nhn hain inshaAllah ...​
Dil Khush HO gaya chotay bhai aap ki yeh thread aur mehnat dekh kar Allah Aap ko Ajar deiga inshaAllah Allah aap ko Istaqaamat Day Ameen ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355251069][/DOUBLEPOST]Gair ALlah Ko Pukarna Ya Allah Kay Siwa Kisi Aur Se Faryad Kuna hona Shirk Hai​
Waseela Ki Aik Simple Si Wazahat Mien Quran ki Ayat Se Kardeta hun :-
Logo Ka Aqeeda Hargiz yeh nhn Hota kay yeh kisi makhlooq ko paida kartay hain ya barish barsaatay hain ya angoor wagera Ugaatay Hain, Balkay woh ya toh in ki ibadat kartay Hain Ya in ki qabron ko poojtay Hain Ya in kay saamnay jhuktay hain aur woh yeh kiun kartay thay?
Quran Majeed Is ki Wazahat In Alfaz Mien Karta Hai :-
Surah Younus Ayat 17 :- Aur Yeh Loug ALlah Wahid ko Chor Kar , Aisii Cheezon ki ibadat kartay hain jo na un ko koi nafaa pohncha sakta hai na koi zarar Aur Kehte Hain Kay Yeh Allah Taalah Kay Pass Hamaray Sifarashi Hain.
(Is Ayat nay Waazeh Saabit Kardiya Kay Jo Loug Yeh Boltay Hain kay Hum toh sirf in ko sifarashi bana kay Yeh Allah Kay Wali Banday Hain Auliya hain In Kay Waseelay Se Allah se maangtay Hain Woh Galat Hain Aur Mushrik Loug Hain Allah Ho Akbar Ab Quran ki Ayat ko koi Jhutla kar phr wohi baat karay kay Kisi Murda Kay Waseelay Se Maanga ja sakta hai kiun kay woh Allah Ka Wali Hai Naik Banda hai Toh Woh Kufur per hai Mazeed Detail Kay Liye Agay Padhye )
Tashreeh / Tafseer of Ayat Number 16 - 18 Surah Younus ..
Chunachay Allah Nay Apnay Rasoolon Ko Mabuoos farma kar logon ko is baat se roka kay woh kisi dusre ko na pukara karain na duain Ibadat ki Soorat Mien Aur na Duain Istagasa ki soorat mien.(Kisi se Madad Talab Karnay ko Istagasa Kehte Hain)
Shaikh Ul Islam Rehmatullah Mazeed Farmatay Hain Kay Jo Shakhs Allah Taalah Aur Apnay Darmiyan Kisi Bhi Gair Allah ko Waseela Banaye , In Per Bharosa Karay In ko Pukaray Aur in se sawal karay woh shakhs baala ijmaa Kaafar Hai ".
Shaikh Ul Islam Rehmatullah Kay Shagird Ibn Qaim Rehmatullah Likhte Hain Kay Shirk Ki Iqsaam Mien se Aik Qisim yeh Bhi Hai Kay Insan Apni Zaruriyat Fout Shuda Auliya Allah Se Talab Karay , In kay Naam se istagaasa karay Aur In ki taraf poori tarah mutawaja ho jaye Haqeeqat mien yehi shirk ki jadd hai ..... Jo Shakhs Fout Ho Chuka Us Kay Aimal Munkatay Ho Chukay , Woh Toh Ab Apni Zaat Kay Nafaa Nuksaan Per Bhi Qudrat Nhn Rakhta Toh Doosron ki Zaruriyat Mien Kaise Kaam Ayega , un Ki Faryaad Sunay Ya Yeh Kahay Kay Kay Woh Allah Se Iski Sifarish Karay Ga , Yeh Sab Jahalat Ki Baatain Hain. Waqiya Yeah Hai Kay Taalib wa Matloob Aur Shaafay wa Mashfoo Dono Barabar Hain.
Ahnaaf Ki Mashoor Kitab Fatawa Albazaziya Mien likha hai kay Jo Shakhs Yeh Aqeeda Rakhta hai kay buzirgaan-e-Deen Aur Mashaaikh Ki Roohain Haazir Hain Aur Hamaray Baaray Mien Ilm Rakhti Hain woh kaafar ho jaata hai.
Shaikh Sanaullah Hanfi Rehmatullah Apni Kitab Mien Tehreer Kartay hain kay Dour-e-Hazir mien Musalamano Mien Kuch Garwa Is Qisim kay paida ho gaye hain jo yeh aqeeda rakhtay hain kay Auliya Allah Ko APni zindagi mien Bhi Aur Baad Az Wafat Bhi is aalam Mien Qudrat, tasaruf haasil hai aur shudaid wa bilyat mien un say istagasa aur ista'anat ki jasakti hai loug yeh aqeeda rakhtay huway un ki qabron per atay hain aur us haajaat rafayi karnay ki darkhuwast kartay hain kay yeh asshaab-e-karamat thay jo logon ki faryadain suntay hain aur in he per is nizaam ka daaromadar hai , in kay naam nazro niyaz bhi dete hain , janwar zibah kartay hain aur khayal kartay hain kay is se woh Auliya in ko mustehaq ajar dienge , Halankay Yeh woh aqeeda hai jis se na sirf Afrat wa tafreet he paayi jaati hai balkay is mien halakat hai aur azaab bhi hai kiun kay is mien khaalis shirk ki boo aati hai jo kitab Allah Kay Sahi Aur Waazeh Ahkaam Kay Sareeh Khilaaf Hai , Tamaam Ayemaa Karaam Kay Aqaaid se Mutsaadim hai aur ijmaah umat kay khilaaf hai.
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lolx
Deobandi ki mehfil mai aaker phanss giya hon mai to ..
by day Way mr Mind ur langauge .
Jahil bolny sy phalay apni jahalat ko dhekh lo ..
Ya ULMA Akram K mazar mai jana bilkul Sahi hai ..
Or Jo nai jata afsoss os ko apni zindagi pey hona chahiya ..
tum batain to bht bari bari kar rahai hai .
Ager IMAM HANFI or IMAM SHAFI ko manty hon ..
to jaoo Apny NAam Nihad ulma sy ja k pouchoo k .
IMAM HAnFI mazar mai gaey thy ya nai .
then aker is baat ko idher charnaaa..
and 2nd thing sath mai apny so called ulma sy pouchna k IMAM SHafi jo k IMAM Hanfi k student bhi thy wo imam shafi k mazar pey jaty thy ya nai ..
Or ja ka waha IMam HANFI maslak ki namaz ada ki thi ya nai .
1st go n den do all this bakwas..

And ik baat clear karta chalon mai .
ya dhamal n all this other stuffs ulmaa or muslims log nai bal k jahil log karty hain .
jis ko karna gunnah hi hai .
But mazar pey jana bilkul allow hai .
ANd plz dont tag me nxt tym .
Deobandi khud hoge aap mein deobandi nahin
aur abki dafa aap keh kar baat karna
bad tameezi ka muzahira is tarah qabaron pe jaa kar karna aap
mere aage bakwaas ki zarurat nahin bilkuil bhi samajh gaye ??

pehle khud Imam Abu Hanifa ka naam to likhna seekh lo aap
aur pehli baat ka jawab ke Imam Abu Hanifa r.a ne kahaan kaha ke
mazaaron per jaao sajde karo ?? kab kaha ke auliya ko waseela banao dua ke liye ??
bataa do ?? agar bata sakte ho ??

haan haan bilkul is tarah fahashiyat dekh kar aap jeson ka dil rukega kya mazaaron per jaane se ??
NAUZBILLAH afsos to aise bol rahe ho jese sunnat e mauqada ho hunh
aur mere paas koi aisa mulla nahin jiske paas mein yeh baaten le kar jaaun
mere paas ALLAH ka utaara huwa QURAN hai aur RASOOL alaehe salam ke ahadeeth hain
jo mere MUSALMAAN hone ki daleel hain

aare jawaab de hi nahin sakte aap aur haan sun lo samajh jaao idher mene aapko tag hi nahin kiya
tag kiya hai to @kool~nomi bhai ne mein tag karta bhi hoon to kam az kam achhe iqhlaaq wale bande ko
naa ke . . . . . .

aur mohtaram ke knowledge me izaafa karte huwe bol dun
aapke hanafi barelvi o sufi sheikh o imam Tahir ul Qadri urs aur mele ke
khilaf hain aur aapka apna koi firqa ise qabool karne ko taiyar nahin
kahaan jaa kar sar de maarna hai aap ne ??

qabaron ki zyarat wahaan jaa kar qabar wale ko dua dena ye to
theek hi hai lekin usse dua maangna aur jin nuqton per mene thread lagaya hai
un per kesa aetraaz hai aur kyun hai ye baat karo aap yaheen ??
 

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Surah al Hashar ki yehi ayah ko aankh khol kar poori parh lo
baat samajh aa jayegi aapko :))
ke ayah mein dar asal likha kya hai filwaqt mein aapke barelvi Tahir ul qadri ki tarjuma
karda Irfan ul Quran se saabit karna chaahunga

Jo ALLAH ne bastion waalon se apne Rasool(alaehesalam)per lautaye hain
wo ALLAH aur uske Rasool(alaehesalam)ke liye hain aur qarabatdaaron ke liye hain
aur yateemon aur mohtajon aur musafiron ke liye taake( tumhara sara mal)maldaron ke darmyan
hi na gardish karta rahe aur jo tumhen Rasool alaehesalam ata karen use le liye karo
aur jisse manah farmaayen so(usse)ruk jaya karo aur ALLAH se darte raho
beshak ALLAH sakht azaab dene wala hai

ab dekhen mukammal ayah aur phir apni post :))

and it iz just one example tumhaari saari ki saari sharing ka yehi haal hai ke
uski haqeeqat kuch bhi nahin tumhen jaana hai to jaao ALLAH HAFIZ
ye forum tumhaare paas nahin aaya tha tum khud apni marzi se yahaan aaye the good bye .
 
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kingnomi

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Owsum , Superb , Very Nice :P
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Deobandi ki mehfil mai aaker phanss giya hon mai to ..
by day Way mr Mind ur langauge .
Jahil bolny sy phalay apni jahalat ko dhekh lo ..
Ya ULMA Akram K mazar mai jana bilkul Sahi hai ..
Or Jo nai jata afsoss os ko apni zindagi pey hona chahiya ..
tum batain to bht bari bari kar rahai hai .
Ager IMAM HANFI or IMAM SHAFI ko manty hon ..
to jaoo Apny NAam Nihad ulma sy ja k pouchoo k .
IMAM HAnFI mazar mai gaey thy ya nai .
then aker is baat ko idher charnaaa..
and 2nd thing sath mai apny so called ulma sy pouchna k IMAM SHafi jo k IMAM Hanfi k student bhi thy wo imam shafi k mazar pey jaty thy ya nai ..
Or ja ka waha IMam HANFI maslak ki namaz ada ki thi ya nai .
1st go n den do all this bakwas..

And ik baat clear karta chalon mai .
ya dhamal n all this other stuffs ulmaa or muslims log nai bal k jahil log karty hain .
jis ko karna gunnah hi hai .
But mazar pey jana bilkul allow hai .
ANd plz dont tag me nxt tym .
Lolzz[DOUBLEPOST=1355258762][/DOUBLEPOST]
Surah al Hashar ki yehi ayah ko aankh khol kar poori parh lo
baat samajh aa jayegi aapko :))
ke ayah mein dar asal likha kya hai filwaqt mein aapke barelvi Tahir ul qadri ki tarjuma
karda Irfan ul Quran se saabit karna chaahunga

Jo ALLAH ne bastion waalon se apne Rasool(alaehesalam)per lautaye hain
wo ALLAH aur uske Rasool(alaehesalam)ke liye hain aur qarabatdaaron ke liye hain
aur yateemon aur mohtajon aur musafiron ke liye taake( tumhara sara mal)maldaron ke darmyan
hi na gardish karta rahe aur jo tumhen Rasool alaehesalam ata karen use le liye karo
aur jisse manah farmaayen so(usse)ruk jaya karo aur ALLAH se darte raho
beshak ALLAH sakht azaab dene wala hai

ab dekhen mukammal ayah aur phir apni post :))

and it iz just one example tumhaari saari ki saari sharing ka yehi haal hai ke
uski haqeeqat kuch bhi nahin tumhen jaana hai to jaao ALLAH HAFIZ
ye forum tumhaare paas nahin aaya tha tum khud apni marzi se yahaan aaye the good bye .
Hahah Sahi Kaha Bhai ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355258925][/DOUBLEPOST]
Deobandi khud hoge aap mein deobandi nahin
aur abki dafa aap keh kar baat karna
bad tameezi ka muzahira is tarah qabaron pe jaa kar karna aap
mere aage bakwaas ki zarurat nahin bilkuil bhi samajh gaye ??

pehle khud Imam Abu Hanifa ka naam to likhna seekh lo aap
aur pehli baat ka jawab ke Imam Abu Hanifa r.a ne kahaan kaha ke
mazaaron per jaao sajde karo ?? kab kaha ke auliya ko waseela banao dua ke liye ??
bataa do ?? agar bata sakte ho ??

haan haan bilkul is tarah fahashiyat dekh kar aap jeson ka dil rukega kya mazaaron per jaane se ??
NAUZBILLAH afsos to aise bol rahe ho jese sunnat e mauqada ho hunh
aur mere paas koi aisa mulla nahin jiske paas mein yeh baaten le kar jaaun
mere paas ALLAH ka utaara huwa QURAN hai aur RASOOL alaehe salam ke ahadeeth hain
jo mere MUSALMAAN hone ki daleel hain

aare jawaab de hi nahin sakte aap aur haan sun lo samajh jaao idher mene aapko tag hi nahin kiya
tag kiya hai to @kool~nomi bhai ne mein tag karta bhi hoon to kam az kam achhe iqhlaaq wale bande ko
naa ke . . . . . .

aur mohtaram ke knowledge me izaafa karte huwe bol dun
aapke hanafi barelvi o sufi sheikh o imam Tahir ul Qadri urs aur mele ke
khilaf hain aur aapka apna koi firqa ise qabool karne ko taiyar nahin
kahaan jaa kar sar de maarna hai aap ne ??

qabaron ki zyarat wahaan jaa kar qabar wale ko dua dena ye to
theek hi hai lekin usse dua maangna aur jin nuqton per mene thread lagaya hai
un per kesa aetraaz hai aur kyun hai ye baat karo aap yaheen ??
Chiragh Bhai Mien Just haqeeqat dikha raha tha isay :D Chor do kiun apna fuzool time barbad kar rahay ho aise logon kay pichay Kuch bhi mat likho ... Just ignore karo aise bando ko jo shirk se bharay padain hain Bas Astaghferrullah Kahay jao agar kuch kahain toh ;)
 
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i love sahabah

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Assalaamu alaikum TM aaj hum khaas kar haazir hain
aap subke aage kuch mazeed mangharat aqaaiyd
rakhne ke liye insha'ALLAH in tamaam baaton
se humen hidayat ka zariya milega so aaj ke mauzu hain

1..Dhamaal

2..Urs o Mela

3..Qabaron ki zyarat aur wahan tamasha

subse pehle bata dein ke hum inhen JIHALAT kyun keh rahe hain

1..ye ISLAM to kya hayadaar insaniyat ke bhi samajh se bahir hain

2..In harkaton me nuqsaan ke ilaawa kuch bhi nahin

3..ISLAM me door door tak inka zikr nahin

4..In melon me aadmi aurat ikhatte hote hain(hamesha)

5..Inse AULIYA ALLAH ki be hurmati hoti hai

6..ISLAM ka ghalat chehra auron ke aage peish hota hai

ab aayen baad jihalat ke ise biddat ki roh se dekhne

ALLAH ta'ala ki janib se jo tumhari taraf naazil kiya gaya hai
us ki pairwi karo,aur ALLAH ko chorh kar mangharat sarparaston ki
pairwi mat karo tum loug bohot hi kam naseehat pakarte ho
Surat al A'araaf,ayat#03

aur Hazoor e Aqdas Rehmat al alameen saww ka farmaan e mubarak hai
sub se behetter baat ALLAH ki KITAB hai
aur subse behetter rehnumaiy MOHAMMAD saww ki hai
aur subse bure amor biddaat hain aur har biddat
gumraahi hai
sahih Tirmadhi shareef
goya yeh bina mufti bane bhi pata lag raha hai ke ISLAM me biddat naami
kuch hota hai har biddat gumraahi hai aur biddat deen me kuch naye
kaam ko kaha jaata hai jese ke unme Dhamaal urs mela qabaron pe tamashe
shaamil hain


doston aaj ke aksar naojawan Karachi Hyderabad
ki jaanib se bolte hain hum jaa rahe hain dargah per
urs hai urs hai aap dekhte hoge unhen theek tarah
se 6 kalimon ka naam tak yaad nahin hoga paanch
waqt ki namaz nahin parhte lekin in maqamaat per
yeh sub dekhne aur karne ke liye jaate hain sirf
aur sirf tafreeh ke naam per aur wahaan kya kiya jata hai
wo sub aap dekh chuke hain NAUZBILLAH aur uske
ilaawa bhi urs mela dhamal ka ISLAM se door door
tak koi rishta nahin albatta yeh dhamal hinduiyat se
MUSALMAANON me daakhil huwa hai jiska khaatma
zaroori hai aur insha'ALLAH eik din iska khaatma hoga
humare liye is se bachna laazmi hai kyunke
QURAN shareef me hai
Farma dijiye ke mere RAB ne sirf
be hayaiy ki baaton ko haram kiya hai
jo un me se zahir hon aur jo posheeda hon
aur gunah ko aur na haq zyadti ko aur is bat
ko ke tum ALLAH ka shareek thehrao,(aur)jiski
usne sanad nahin utaari aur ye ke tum ALLAH
per aisi baaten kaho jo tum khud bhi
nahin jaante
Quran surat al A'araaf,ayat#32
(again from Irfan ul Quran)
aur apne jaanne walon ko in biddaat se
bachaane ki poori koshish karen kyunke
QURAN AL HAKEEM me aaya hai
Beshak insan khassare me hai siwaye un logon ke jo iman le aaye
aur naik amal karte rahe aur eik doosre ko haq ki talqeen karte rahe
aur baahum sabar ki takeed karte rahe
Quran surat al Hummaza,ayat#2-3
ALLAH PAK humen haq ke raaste pe chalaye
HAQ baat karne ki sunne ki samajhne ki
karwane ki sunaane ki samjhaane ki bharpoor
quwwat himmat o taufeeq bakhsh Ameen .
Asalam o alikum to all muslims
JazakALLAH.......... Bahut achy tareeqy se samjhaya aap ne. ALLAH aap ko jazaye khair ata farmaye.......
Kuch zara apni akal-e-shareef pey noash farma lo tum log.
baki ALLAH PAk Best JAN NY waly hain .
@ S_ChiragH , ChoCo , @ kool~nomi @ hoorain @ ShyPrincess


Bhar do Jholi Meri Ya Muhammad
QURAN:
"or jo kuch tme RASOOL AlaihSlam ataa Farmain wo lo"
(Sort Hashar:7)
"or Unhain kia bura laga yahi na k Allah o RASOOL Ne inhen Apny fazal se ghani ker dia"
(Surah Touba:74)
NAAT-2
Shahe Madina Sary NABI Tere dar k sawali
QURAN:
"Or yaad karo jab ALLAH ne Anbiya se NABI AlaihSlam ka wada liya"
(AlImran 81,82)
HADEES-1
NABI PAK ne Farmaya:
Allah deta hai aur MAIN taqseem kerta hon.
(Bukhari 1/16)
HADEES-2
NABi PAK ne Farmaya:
Me Tmam Anbiya Karaam or Logo ka Sardar hon
(Muslim, Bukhari H:4343)
See Next

*Naat or Iman*
@2
ISTAGHASA-3
Moula Ali Meri Kishti Paar Lagaa Dena.
QURAN:
''Tumhary MadadGaar Nahi Magar Allah Or Uska Rasool or Iman Waly''
(Al Maida 55)
kia Hazrat Ali Iman Waly Nahi.?
QURAN:
''Kia Tum Nahi dekhty Ky Samundar Me Kishtiya Allah ki Nemto (Quran o Anbiya o Auliya) Ky Sabab Chalti hain''
(Al Luqmaan 31)
HADEES-1
NABi PAK Ne Farmaya:
BeShak Ali Mujh Se Hain or Me Ali Se Hon Or Ali Her Momin ka MadadGaar hai Mere Bad.
(Tirmizi 2/212)
HADEES-2
NABi PAK Ne Farmaya:
Jab kisi ki Sawari choot Jaye to wo kahy: Ay Allah ky Bando Meri Madad Karo
(Musannaf Ibne Abi Shaiba 7/132)

*Naat or Iman*
@3
NAAT-4
Jo Maang Dare Mustafaa Se Maang.
QURAN:
"Agar jab wo Apni jaanon per zulm kerain to Aey MEHBOOB tumhary Hazoor Hazir hon, or Phir Allah se Maafi chahain or Rasool Unki Shifaat Farmaye to Zroor Allah ko bohat Touba Qabool Karny wala Mehrbaan Pain"
(Surah Nisa:64)
NAAT-5
Noorani Noor Her Bala DooR.
QURAN-1
"To Be-shak ALLAH unka Madad gar Or Jibrail (Noor) or Naik iman waly Or Us k baad Farishtay (Noor) Madad per hen"
(AL-Tehreem:4)
QURAN-2
"ALLAH ka Dast-e-Karam khula hy jisay chahta hy Ataa farmata hy"
(AL-Maida:64)
Lehaaza Allah ne Apny Auliya ko Madad Ki Taqat Dey Rakhi hy

*Naat or Iman*
@4
ISTAGHASA-5
Bari Bari Imam Bari Meri khoti kismat karo khari.
HADEES e QUDSI:
"Mera Banda Nawafil ki Kasrat se Mera Qurb Hasil Karta Rehta hai,
Yahan Tak k Mai usey Apna Mehboob Bana leta hon,
Agar wo Mujhse Mangey to Mai Zarur Usey Ataa karta hon"
(Bukhari H-6502)
ISTAGHASA-6
Shahbaz kary Perwaz tey Jany Raaz dila dey.
HADEES:
"Momin ki Firasat Se bacho beshak wo ALLAH Ky Noor se Dekhta hy"
(Bukhari 1/439)
Or Allah ka Noor kia Dilo Tak Nahi Puhanch Sakta.?
Auliya Karaam Allah Ky Noor Se dilo Ky Haal Jaan Lety hain.

*Naat or Iman*
@5
MANQABAT-7
Baba Shah Jamal Puttar dey Rata laal.
QURAN:
Hazrat Maryam Ky Pas Hazrat Jibrail Tashreef Laye Aur kaha
''Me Tere Rab ka Bheja huwa Qasid hon Me Is liye Aaya hon Taa Ky Tujhey Aik Pakeeza Beta Don''
(Sura Maryam 19)
is Se Sabit howa Ky Haqeeqi Bety Dene Wala RAB hai Lekin Allah Ky Karam Se RAB Ky Banday hi Aulaad Deny ka Waseela Banty hain
isi Tara Wali Se Aulaad ki Dua Karwana Jaiz hai Wo Hamary Haq Me Dua karta hy Allah Qabool Farmata hy
Hazrat SAAD BIN ABI WAQAS ne Farmaya k jo Qabar walo ko Slam Karty hen Qabar wala un k liye Salamti ki Dua Krta hy
(Shara AlSador p193)

Jis post mien ksi ne ulama deen ko burra kaha hay os ki report karo ADMIN ko ...........
apna aqeeda bayan karna hay to wo bhi karo lakin ksi doosry muslim maslak pe tanqeed nien karo........
aap agar brelvi ho ya minhaji ho to aap k maslak k bary mien post karny ko hamary pass bhi bahut kuch hay lakin forun k ADMIN ki wajah se nien kar raha,.,,,,,

 

Abid Mahmood

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Plz sab log aram se tuhamal k sath bat karain meray hafta-e khush akhlaqi ka he kuch khiyal karain,
wasay b jahan akhlaq nahi ha wahan Islam b nahi ha,Islam to phela he akhtaq aur burdbari ke waja se ha,
iss thread k hawala se mery post bad main aaey gee,In Sha Allah,
 
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Abid Mahmood

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Itnay achay achay aur baray baray aalim fazil hazrat ke mojudgi main lab kushai kartay hue,ma iss khof main zarur mubtala hoon k kaheen iss juram ke padash main mujhe shirak ka murtikab na qar diya jae,
.. @S_ChiragH Bhai ne mazarat par honay walay jin ghalt kamon ko hilight kiya ha,unko koi b sahi nahi keh sakta,lekon aisay ghalt kamon ko kisi khas maslak se nahi jorna chahyay,kiounkay iss tarha k kam karnay walon ka siraf aik he maslak hota ha,jis ka naam ha,"jahalat"
mery nazar main har ghalt kam ko ghalt kehna chahyay,chahay wo kisi mazar main ho raha ho ya kisi madrasay main ya kisi aur jagha!
ma apnay baray main bata doon k ma boht kam mazarat pe jata hoon aur aj tak kisi aisay mazar par nahi gaya k jahan dhol damaka ya qawali waghaira ho rahi ho,kai mazar aisay hain k jahan aisy baton se sakhti se mana kiya jata ha aur baqaida likha hua hota ha k yahan dhol waghaira bajana mamnu ha,aur wahan siraf Quran khwani aur naat khwani hoti ha,
ma jab b kisi mazar par jata hoon to siraf fateha khwani karta hoon,kabi aur koi dua nahi mangta,
ma kisi aisay peer ko b nahi manta k jo khud khilaf-e shariyat kam kar raha ho ya usske sarparasti main aisay kaam ho rahay hon,
intaha pasandi kisi taraf b nahi honi chahyay,na to in ghalt kamon ko defend karna chahay aur na ye kehna chahyay k mazar he ghalat hain ya jin k mazar hain wo ghalt ha,
ye b yad rakhna chahyay k barre sagheer pak o hind main inhe bazurgan-e deen aur sofiya karam ke waja se islam phela,k jis ka tazkara boht se ghair janabdar muarkheen ne apni kitabon main kiya ha,
iss lie in bazurgon ke khidmat ko b faramosh nahi karna chahayay aur ma to iss hawalay se Allama Iqbal ke aetdal pasand soch ka qaael hoon jinho aik taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"nikal kar khankahon se adaa kar rasm'e Shabberi"
aur dusri taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"koi andaza kar sakta ha isskay zor'e bazu ka
nigahe marde moman se badal jati hain taqdeerain
(yarane ahle ilam se kia baeed k Iqbal k iss shaer ko b shirkiya qarar dain)
har qisam ke jahalat ko hilight karna chahyay,agar mazarat par ghalt kam ho rahay hain to in ghalat kamon ko khatam karnay ke bat karni chahyay,na k ye kaha jae k mazar he khatam kar diyay jaen ya mazar honay he nahi chahyain,aisa kehna b aik tarha ke jahalat he ha,kion ab hum sab k ghar main TV hain,TV par din raat nach ganay aur ghalt kam ho rahay hotay hain,ab hum yehi kahain ge k ya to hum ghalt kam dekhain he na ya phir ghar main TV na rakhain,ye nahi kahain ge k ghar main ghalat kam chal rahay hain to ghar he nahi hona chahyay,
wasay b Allah ke marzi k baghair na to koi cheez paida ho sakti ha aur na khatam ho sakti ha,shied yehi waja ha k naslain aur tahzeebain badal gaien magar Allah se muhabat rakhnay walay in bazurgon k mazarat sadiyon se mehfuz chalay aa rahay hain,
mery soch to iss taraf b jati ha k agar kisi mazar par koi ghalt kam na hota ho,siraf Quran khwani hoti ho,koi banda uss mazar main ja kar Quran parh raha ho aur ussi waqt mazar pe janay walon ko bura samajhnay wala banda ghar main beth kar filam dekh raha ho to dono main jahil koun ho ga?
Ma aik din PC par Naat sun raha tha,aik larka aaya ma ne ussay kaha k aaeyay bari achi naat ha suniyay,uss ne kaha k hum falan maslak se tualaq rakhtay hain iss lie naatain nahi suntay,thori daer bad wohi larka PC par gana sun raha tha,ma heran reh gaya k ye kaisy jahalat ha k naat ko thukra diya aur gana sunnay lag para,boht se log iss jahalat main mubtala hotay hain k naat main keray nikalain ge aur ganay baray aram sun rahay hotay hain,
aur ye b jahalat ha k koi qurani ayat aur ahadees to dhara dhar post kar raha ho,magar khud apnay avatar ya sig main behuda c pic lagai ho,
ye b jahalat ha k islam ke bat kartay hue akhlaq aur burdbari ko bhula diya jae,
in masalon se mera maqsad ye ha k mazarat pe honay wali jahalat k sath sath humain dusri jahalaton ko b hilight karna chahayay,
in the end ma yehi kahun ga k na to humain Aulia karam se aqeedat main iss had tak jana chahyay k khilafe islam kam karnay lag parain aur na he un se bughaz main itna aagay jana chahyay k unkay maqam o martabay ko jhutla diya jae,
aur ye b nahi bhulna chahyay k mazaarat se ziada khatra Islam ko un but khano se ha k jo aj k nam nihad mullaaon k dimaghon main fit ho chukay hain,
baqol Allama Iqbal,
"bayan main nukta'e toheed aa to sakta ha
teray dimagh main but khana ho to kia kahiyay"
 

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Owsum , Superb , Very Nice :P
Itnay achay achay aur baray baray aalim fazil hazrat ke mojudgi main lab kushai kartay hue,ma iss khof main zarur mubtala hoon k kaheen iss juram ke padash main mujhe shirak ka murtikab na qar diya jae,
.. @S_ChiragH Bhai ne mazarat par honay walay jin ghalt kamon ko hilight kiya ha,unko koi b sahi nahi keh sakta,lekon aisay ghalt kamon ko kisi khas maslak se nahi jorna chahyay,kiounkay iss tarha k kam karnay walon ka siraf aik he maslak hota ha,jis ka naam ha,"jahalat"
mery nazar main har ghalt kam ko ghalt kehna chahyay,chahay wo kisi mazar main ho raha ho ya kisi madrasay main ya kisi aur jagha!
ma apnay baray main bata doon k ma boht kam mazarat pe jata hoon aur aj tak kisi aisay mazar par nahi gaya k jahan dhol damaka ya qawali waghaira ho rahi ho,kai mazar aisay hain k jahan aisy baton se sakhti se mana kiya jata ha aur baqaida likha hua hota ha k yahan dhol waghaira bajana mamnu ha,aur wahan siraf Quran khwani aur naat khwani hoti ha,
ma jab b kisi mazar par jata hoon to siraf fateha khwani karta hoon,kabi aur koi dua nahi mangta,
ma kisi aisay peer ko b nahi manta k jo khud khilaf-e shariyat kam kar raha ho ya usske sarparasti main aisay kaam ho rahay hon,
intaha pasandi kisi taraf b nahi honi chahyay,na to in ghalt kamon ko defend karna chahay aur na ye kehna chahyay k mazar he ghalat hain ya jin k mazar hain wo ghalt ha,
ye b yad rakhna chahyay k barre sagheer pak o hind main inhe bazurgan-e deen aur sofiya karam ke waja se islam phela,k jis ka tazkara boht se ghair janabdar muarkheen ne apni kitabon main kiya ha,
iss lie in bazurgon ke khidmat ko b faramosh nahi karna chahayay aur ma to iss hawalay se Allama Iqbal ke aetdal pasand soch ka qaael hoon jinho aik taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"nikal kar khankahon se adaa kar rasm'e Shabberi"
aur dusri taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"koi andaza kar sakta ha isskay zor'e bazu ka
nigahe marde moman se badal jati hain taqdeerain
(yarane ahle ilam se kia baeed k Iqbal k iss shaer ko b shirkiya qarar dain)
har qisam ke jahalat ko hilight karna chahyay,agar mazarat par ghalt kam ho rahay hain to in ghalat kamon ko khatam karnay ke bat karni chahyay,na k ye kaha jae k mazar he khatam kar diyay jaen ya mazar honay he nahi chahyain,aisa kehna b aik tarha ke jahalat he ha,kion ab hum sab k ghar main TV hain,TV par din raat nach ganay aur ghalt kam ho rahay hotay hain,ab hum yehi kahain ge k ya to hum ghalt kam dekhain he na ya phir ghar main TV na rakhain,ye nahi kahain ge k ghar main ghalat kam chal rahay hain to ghar he nahi hona chahyay,
wasay b Allah ke marzi k baghair na to koi cheez paida ho sakti ha aur na khatam ho sakti ha,shied yehi waja ha k naslain aur tahzeebain badal gaien magar Allah se muhabat rakhnay walay in bazurgon k mazarat sadiyon se mehfuz chalay aa rahay hain,
mery soch to iss taraf b jati ha k agar kisi mazar par koi ghalt kam na hota ho,siraf Quran khwani hoti ho,koi banda uss mazar main ja kar Quran parh raha ho aur ussi waqt mazar pe janay walon ko bura samajhnay wala banda ghar main beth kar filam dekh raha ho to dono main jahil koun ho ga?
Ma aik din PC par Naat sun raha tha,aik larka aaya ma ne ussay kaha k aaeyay bari achi naat ha suniyay,uss ne kaha k hum falan maslak se tualaq rakhtay hain iss lie naatain nahi suntay,thori daer bad wohi larka PC par gana sun raha tha,ma heran reh gaya k ye kaisy jahalat ha k naat ko thukra diya aur gana sunnay lag para,boht se log iss jahalat main mubtala hotay hain k naat main keray nikalain ge aur ganay baray aram sun rahay hotay hain,
aur ye b jahalat ha k koi qurani ayat aur ahadees to dhara dhar post kar raha ho,magar khud apnay avatar ya sig main behuda c pic lagai ho,
ye b jahalat ha k islam ke bat kartay hue akhlaq aur burdbari ko bhula diya jae,
in masalon se mera maqsad ye ha k mazarat pe honay wali jahalat k sath sath humain dusri jahalaton ko b hilight karna chahayay,
in the end ma yehi kahun ga k na to humain Aulia karam se aqeedat main iss had tak jana chahyay k khilafe islam kam karnay lag parain aur na he un se bughaz main itna aagay jana chahyay k unkay maqam o martabay ko jhutla diya jae,
aur ye b nahi bhulna chahyay k mazaarat se ziada khatra Islam ko un but khano se ha k jo aj k nam nihad mullaaon k dimaghon main fit ho chukay hain,
baqol Allama Iqbal,
"bayan main nukta'e toheed aa to sakta ha
teray dimagh main but khana ho to kia kahiyay"
Itnay achay achay aur baray baray aalim fazil hazrat ke mojudgi main lab kushai kartay hue,ma iss khof main zarur mubtala hoon k kaheen iss juram ke padash main mujhe shirak ka murtikab na qar diya jae,
.. @S_ChiragH Bhai ne mazarat par honay walay jin ghalt kamon ko hilight kiya ha,unko koi b sahi nahi keh sakta,lekon aisay ghalt kamon ko kisi khas maslak se nahi jorna chahyay,kiounkay iss tarha k kam karnay walon ka siraf aik he maslak hota ha,jis ka naam ha,"jahalat"
mery nazar main har ghalt kam ko ghalt kehna chahyay,chahay wo kisi mazar main ho raha ho ya kisi madrasay main ya kisi aur jagha!
ma apnay baray main bata doon k ma boht kam mazarat pe jata hoon aur aj tak kisi aisay mazar par nahi gaya k jahan dhol damaka ya qawali waghaira ho rahi ho,kai mazar aisay hain k jahan aisy baton se sakhti se mana kiya jata ha aur baqaida likha hua hota ha k yahan dhol waghaira bajana mamnu ha,aur wahan siraf Quran khwani aur naat khwani hoti ha,
ma jab b kisi mazar par jata hoon to siraf fateha khwani karta hoon,kabi aur koi dua nahi mangta,
ma kisi aisay peer ko b nahi manta k jo khud khilaf-e shariyat kam kar raha ho ya usske sarparasti main aisay kaam ho rahay hon,
intaha pasandi kisi taraf b nahi honi chahyay,na to in ghalt kamon ko defend karna chahay aur na ye kehna chahyay k mazar he ghalat hain ya jin k mazar hain wo ghalt ha,
ye b yad rakhna chahyay k barre sagheer pak o hind main inhe bazurgan-e deen aur sofiya karam ke waja se islam phela,k jis ka tazkara boht se ghair janabdar muarkheen ne apni kitabon main kiya ha,
iss lie in bazurgon ke khidmat ko b faramosh nahi karna chahayay aur ma to iss hawalay se Allama Iqbal ke aetdal pasand soch ka qaael hoon jinho aik taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"nikal kar khankahon se adaa kar rasm'e Shabberi"
aur dusri taraf ye b kaha ha k,
"koi andaza kar sakta ha isskay zor'e bazu ka
nigahe marde moman se badal jati hain taqdeerain
(yarane ahle ilam se kia baeed k Iqbal k iss shaer ko b shirkiya qarar dain)
har qisam ke jahalat ko hilight karna chahyay,agar mazarat par ghalt kam ho rahay hain to in ghalat kamon ko khatam karnay ke bat karni chahyay,na k ye kaha jae k mazar he khatam kar diyay jaen ya mazar honay he nahi chahyain,aisa kehna b aik tarha ke jahalat he ha,kion ab hum sab k ghar main TV hain,TV par din raat nach ganay aur ghalt kam ho rahay hotay hain,ab hum yehi kahain ge k ya to hum ghalt kam dekhain he na ya phir ghar main TV na rakhain,ye nahi kahain ge k ghar main ghalat kam chal rahay hain to ghar he nahi hona chahyay,
wasay b Allah ke marzi k baghair na to koi cheez paida ho sakti ha aur na khatam ho sakti ha,shied yehi waja ha k naslain aur tahzeebain badal gaien magar Allah se muhabat rakhnay walay in bazurgon k mazarat sadiyon se mehfuz chalay aa rahay hain,
mery soch to iss taraf b jati ha k agar kisi mazar par koi ghalt kam na hota ho,siraf Quran khwani hoti ho,koi banda uss mazar main ja kar Quran parh raha ho aur ussi waqt mazar pe janay walon ko bura samajhnay wala banda ghar main beth kar filam dekh raha ho to dono main jahil koun ho ga?
Ma aik din PC par Naat sun raha tha,aik larka aaya ma ne ussay kaha k aaeyay bari achi naat ha suniyay,uss ne kaha k hum falan maslak se tualaq rakhtay hain iss lie naatain nahi suntay,thori daer bad wohi larka PC par gana sun raha tha,ma heran reh gaya k ye kaisy jahalat ha k naat ko thukra diya aur gana sunnay lag para,boht se log iss jahalat main mubtala hotay hain k naat main keray nikalain ge aur ganay baray aram sun rahay hotay hain,
aur ye b jahalat ha k koi qurani ayat aur ahadees to dhara dhar post kar raha ho,magar khud apnay avatar ya sig main behuda c pic lagai ho,
ye b jahalat ha k islam ke bat kartay hue akhlaq aur burdbari ko bhula diya jae,
in masalon se mera maqsad ye ha k mazarat pe honay wali jahalat k sath sath humain dusri jahalaton ko b hilight karna chahayay,
in the end ma yehi kahun ga k na to humain Aulia karam se aqeedat main iss had tak jana chahyay k khilafe islam kam karnay lag parain aur na he un se bughaz main itna aagay jana chahyay k unkay maqam o martabay ko jhutla diya jae,
aur ye b nahi bhulna chahyay k mazaarat se ziada khatra Islam ko un but khano se ha k jo aj k nam nihad mullaaon k dimaghon main fit ho chukay hain,
baqol Allama Iqbal,
"bayan main nukta'e toheed aa to sakta ha
teray dimagh main but khana ho to kia kahiyay"
Mohtaram Abidi Bhai jab Mazar banana hi galat hai toh phr behs karnay ka faida ? Kiya aap is In Sab Ahadees se inkaar kartay hain

kiya Allah Kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay Yeh Nhn Kaha Kay Koi Bhi Qabar Paki Nhn Honi chaye Agar Paki ho toh Usay Gira Do ?

Nabi S.A.W.W Nay Farmaya Agar Koi Qabar Paki Ho Toh Usay Zameen Ke Level Per Leker Aao (Sahi Bukhari)

Agar Aap in Ahaadees Se Inkaar Kartay Hain Toh mien Aap se Is Maamlay mien baat nhn karna chahta JazakaALlah Allah Hum Sab ko Seedhi Raha Per Laaye Ameen

 

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Mohtaram Abidi Bhai jab Mazar banana hi galat hai toh phr behs karnay ka faida ? Kiya aap is In Sab Ahadees se inkaar kartay hain

kiya Allah Kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay Yeh Nhn Kaha Kay Koi Bhi Qabar Paki Nhn Honi chaye Agar Paki ho toh Usay Gira Do ?

Nabi S.A.W.W Nay Farmaya Agar Koi Qabar Paki Ho Toh Usay Zameen Ke Level Per Leker Aao (Sahi Bukhari)

Agar Aap in Ahaadees Se Inkaar Kartay Hain Toh mien Aap se Is Maamlay mien baat nhn karna chahta JazakaALlah Allah Hum Sab ko Seedhi Raha Per Laaye Ameen

yaar ma ne to koi behas karnay ke koshish nahi ke ma ne to apna point of view biyan kiya,ma janab bhala aap se kaisay behas kar sakta hoon,ma to manta hoon k aap boht ziada ilam rakhtay hain aur ma aik kam feham aadmi hoon,iss lie bhai mujhe chhoro apni bat karo k jab aapka paka yaqeen ha k in mazarat ko gira dena chahyay to aap abi tak gira kioun nahi sakay?ye mazarat sadiyon se sahi salamat mehfuz kioun hain?
Yahan ma siraf aik aankhon dekha waqea share karun ga,hamaray alaqay main kisi bazurag ka aik chhota sa mazar ha,jisko hum bachpan se dekhtay aa rahay hain,hamaray baray kehtay hain k unho ne b shuru se iss mazar ko dekha ha,iss mazar ke na to koi intazamia ha na koi gadi nasheen,15 saal pehlay hamaray alakay k kuch logon ne uss mazar wali aur ird gird se kafi jaga khared lee,aur madrasa banana shuru kar diya,madrasay k bani aur sarbarah kafi ba asar hain aur jamiyat ahle hadees punjab k uhdedar b hain,unho ne sarr torr koshish ke k iss mazar ko kisi tarha gira diya jae,iss k lie unho ne boht c qanuni jangain b larien,magar bat na bani,ab uss madrassay ke taraf dekhain to aisay lagta ha k mazar madrasay k andar mojud ha,right aur left pe b madrasa aur pechay b madrasa aur mazar apni jaga sahi salamat mojud ha,sach ha k jisay Allah rakhay ussay kon chakhay,
anyway bhai aapko lagta ha k ma yahan koi behas kar raha hoon,to theek ha ma ab mazeed iss thread main posting nahi karun ga chahay mujhe aap jo b kahain,
haan ye hasrat dil main he reh gai k jis tarha ma ne @S_ChiragH bhai ke hilight ke gai jahalaton ko khul kar ghalt kaha ha to kash aap log b apna dil wasee kartay aur ma ne apni uss post main jin jahalaton ke nishandahi ke ha,aap mery tarha unko ghalt kehnay ko tayyar hotay!
Chalain koi bat nahi,aapka apna moqaf ho ga aur mujhe aapkay moqaf ke qadar karni chahyay,
ok,take care,iss request k sath k ma ne apni pichli post k akhir main Allama Iqbal ka jo shaer likha ha ussko dobara zarur parhaiyay ga,
May God bless u,
Allah Hafiz.
 
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yaar baat kuch ajeeb si lagi
sadiyon se to mandir girja ghar waghera b sahi salamat mojod hain is duniya main phir hum log un mandiron main poja paat kyun nhi shuro kr lete?Allah chahta to gira sakta tha na unhe?lekin nhi giraye to zahir hai insaano ki oqaat hi kya un mandir o girja gharon ko to Allah ne hi sahi salamat rakha hoa haina?
 

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yaar ma ne to koi behas karnay ke koshish nahi ke ma ne to apna point of view biyan kiya,ma janab bhala aap se kaisay behas kar sakta hoon,ma to manta hoon k aap boht ziada ilam rakhtay hain aur ma aik kam feham aadmi hoon,iss lie bhai mujhe chhoro apni bat karo k jab aapka paka yaqeen ha k in mazarat ko gira dena chahyay to aap abi tak gira kioun nahi sakay?ye mazarat sadiyon se sahi salamat mehfuz kioun hain?
Yahan ma siraf aik aankhon dekha waqea share karun ga,hamaray alaqay main kisi bazurag ka aik chhota sa mazar ha,jisko hum bachpan se dekhtay aa rahay hain,hamaray baray kehtay hain k unho ne b shuru se iss mazar ko dekha ha,iss mazar ke na to koi intazamia ha na koi gadi nasheen,15 saal pehlay hamaray alakay k kuch logon ne uss mazar wali aur ird gird se kafi jaga khared lee,aur madrasa banana shuru kar diya,madrasay k bani aur sarbarah kafi ba asar hain aur jamiyat ahle hadees punjab k uhdedar b hain,unho ne sarr torr koshish ke k iss mazar ko kisi tarha gira diya jae,iss k lie unho ne boht c qanuni jangain b larien,magar bat na bani,ab uss madrassay ke taraf dekhain to aisay lagta ha k mazar madrasay k andar mojud ha,right aur left pe b madrasa aur pechay b madrasa aur mazar apni jaga sahi salamat mojud ha,sach ha k jisay Allah rakhay ussay kon chakhay,
anyway bhai aapko lagta ha k ma yahan koi behas kar raha hoon,to theek ha ma ab mazeed iss thread main posting nahi karun ga chahay mujhe aap jo b kahain,
haan ye hasrat dil main he reh gai k jis tarha ma ne @S_ChiragH bhai ke hilight ke gai jahalaton ko khul kar ghalt kaha ha to kash aap log b apna dil wasee kartay aur ma ne apni uss post main jin jahalaton ke nishandahi ke ha,aap mery tarha unko ghalt kehnay ko tayyar hotay!
Chalain koi bat nahi,aapka apna moqaf ho ga aur mujhe aapkay moqaf ke qadar karni chahyay,
ok,take care,iss request k sath k ma ne apni pichli post k akhir main Allama Iqbal ka jo shaer likha ha ussko dobara zarur parhaiyay ga,
May God bless u,
Allah Hafiz.
Bhaijan Mene Just Aap se yeh pucha tha kay aap In Hadeeson ko nhn maantay jo mene post ki Abhi ? mene sirf itna pucha tha aap ne itna lamba choraa post kardia < Aap mujhay sirf mere sawal ka jawab dein de Bas ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355329955][/DOUBLEPOST]
yaar baat kuch ajeeb si lagi
sadiyon se to mandir girja ghar waghera b sahi salamat mojod hain is duniya main phir hum log un mandiron main poja paat kyun nhi shuro kr lete?Allah chahta to gira sakta tha na unhe?lekin nhi giraye to zahir hai insaano ki oqaat hi kya un mandir o girja gharon ko to Allah ne hi sahi salamat rakha hoa haina?
Mandiron Mien jayeinge toh HIndu kehlayein gay na fahad baaki mazaron pe loug jatay hain Sawab samajh kar Lekin Dono Ki Baat toh aik hi hai Mazar Mandiron mien aaj kal faraq nhn lagta mujhay toh kiya kehte ho :D
 

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main bas itna hi kahunga ke Allah ne Haq ko aankhen nhi di balke usse andha rakha hai isliye Haq hamare pas khud chal ker kabi nhi aata balke Allah ne insaan ko Ankhen di hain take woh Haq ko dekhe pehchane or apna le
lekin hamari aqal ka mayaar itna gir chuka hai ke hum khud andhe ban ker sirf apne baap dadaon ke awamil ko hi haq samjh lete hain yeh tak nhi sochte ke Allah Quran main kya farma raha hai Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke Ahadeeson ki surat main kya kya farmanat hain Sahaba karaam rz ne Allah or uske Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke raste per chalte hoye kya kya amal kye the lekin hum log in sab baaton se balatar ho ker Andhi Taqleed ki ek lakeer ki surat main chalte chale ja rhe hain jisse dusre lafzon main lakeer ka faqeer b kaha jata hai
 

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main bas itna hi kahunga ke Allah ne Haq ko aankhen nhi di balke usse andha rakha hai isliye Haq hamare pas khud chal ker kabi nhi aata balke Allah ne insaan ko Ankhen di hain take woh Haq ko dekhe pehchane or apna le
lekin hamari aqal ka mayaar itna gir chuka hai ke hum khud andhe ban ker sirf apne baap dadaon ke awamil ko hi haq samjh lete hain yeh tak nhi sochte ke Allah Quran main kya farma raha hai Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke Ahadeeson ki surat main kya kya farmanat hain Sahaba karaam rz ne Allah or uske Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke raste per chalte hoye kya kya amal kye the lekin hum log in sab baaton se balatar ho ker Andhi Taqleed ki ek lakeer ki surat main chalte chale ja rhe hain jisse dusre lafzon main lakeer ka faqeer b kaha jata hai
Jani i Appreciate your lines kis achay tariqay se tumnay Define kiya hai Boht Acha Laga Dear Islamic Posting karo islamic section ko tumhari Aur Tumharay Jaise Musbat Soch Rakhnay Walon Ki zarurat hai ... Apnay Khayal Post Kartay raha karo ...Aur Bilkul sahi Kaha Tumnay Allah nay Humien Itni badi Naimatain Di Hain Ankhien Dimag Aur Dil Per Koi Use Nhn Karta Bus Wohi Apni Ana Kay Pichay Pagal Huwa ja raha hai Shetaan kay raastay Per Yeh bhi nhn sochta dekhta kay jo usay bataya ja raha hai woh kis ne kaha hai kis ka farman hai Mien Aise logo ko Dekh kar bas AstaghFerrullah He Kahunga .. JazakAllah
 

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Mera behas karnay ka koi mood nahi ha,ma ne to apni posts main har ghalt bat ko ghalt kaha tha,ma yahan dobara nahi aana chahta tha,siraf iss dukh ke waja se aaya hoon k meray dobara mention karnay k bawajud aap main se kisi aik main b itni akhlaqi jurrat nahi hui k un jahlana baton ko b ghalt kehtay k jin ko ma ne hilight kiya tha,jis par jitna b afsos kiya jae wo kam ha,
Allah hum sab ko hadayet day,aameen.
 

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Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki hasti tamaam peeron tamaam faqeeron tamaam babaaon tamaam imaamon or tamaam insaano per faziliyat rakhti hai
isliye afsos un logon per karna chahiye jo apne ijaad karda aqideh ko Oncha karne ke liye Nabi Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke farmaan ko neecha kar rhe hote hain unki ahadeeson ko jhutla rahe hote hain or jinke nazdeek unki ana or unka saalon se karte aya hoa Amal bhi Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki baat se zyada importance rakhta hai
 

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Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki hasti tamaam peeron tamaam faqeeron tamaam babaaon tamaam imaamon or tamaam insaano per faziliyat rakhti hai
isliye afsos un logon per karna chahiye jo apne ijaad karda aqideh ko Oncha karne ke liye Nabi Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ke farmaan ko neecha kar rhe hote hain unki ahadeeson ko jhutla rahe hote hain or jinke nazdeek unki ana or unka saalon se karte aya hoa Amal bhi Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki baat se zyada importance rakhta hai
Hmmm Bilkul Theek Kaha Fahad Bht Afsos Hota hai per un logon ko Shetaan afsos nhn karnay deta jo loug is sab per yakeen rakhtay hain ... Allhamdullilah Allah Nay Humien Musbat Soch di hai islam ko samjhnay ki toufeeq ata farmayi hai Allah Humien Mazeed Samjhnay ki toufeeq ata farmaye and humien apni saari zindagi deen kay mutabiq guzarnay ki toufeeq ata farmaye .Ameen ...
 

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yar isi forum pe is se pehle b kaafi baar firqawarana behes chalti rhi hai lekin yeh log apko apne kisi b amal per na Quran sunayenge na Rasool Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ki ahadeesen sunayenge balke sirf falsafa sunayenge jabke deene islaam Quran o hadees ke zariye hi nazil hoa hai or Quran o hadees ke zariye hi hum tak pohoncha hai or is baat se yeh log khud b agree karte hain lekin jab inka koi amal Quran o hadees se bhi ghalat sabit horha hota hai to bhi yeh apne falsafe ko Quran o hadees per tarjeeh dete hain yani inki soch kuch is tarha se hoti hai ke jo hum soch rhe hain or jo hum kar rhe hain bas woh sahi hai chahen Quran o hadees se sabit ho ya na ho lekin jo Quran yeh log suna rhe hain woh b ghalat hai or jo ahadeesen yeh log suna rhe hain woh b ghalat hai yaqin nhi to ap Quran o hadees se mukhalif amal karne wale kisi b insaan ko samjha ker dekh li jiyega
 
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