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to kia dunia k sarey fasad sirf mazhab k naam per hoey hen?
بلکل --- قادری نے تاثیر کو مرا مذہب کی بنیاد پر--- ١١ سپتمبر کے پیچھے مسلمان ہیں یا یہودی ، مذہب کے نام پہ کیا گیا -- آج خود کش حملہ کسی کو مارتا تو مذہب کے نام پر -- اور مثالیں دوں یا یہ بہت ہیں -- لوگوں کو قتل کیا گیا -- جیلوں میں ڈالا گیا -- جنگیں کی گیں -- ہلٹر نے جو قتل و غارت کی وہ بھی مذہبی تھی کیوں کے وہ مذبہی انسان تھا
ہر مذہب والا یہی کہتا کے ہمارا مذہب دنیا میں چھا جانے کے لیا آیا
 
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AshirFrhan

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and here is that difference btw Islam and other religions. Ek lambi list hey un logon ki jinhon ney apney research work ki base per wehshiana sazaon ka samna kiya "CHURCH" ki taraf sey.
Ap Islamic History sey ek bhi misal le lao ki kisi sciencedan ko us k reserch work ki bina per zinda jalaya gaya ho.
 

The horror

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the haunted mansion
and here is that difference btw Islam and other religions. Ek lambi list hey un logon ki jinhon ney apney research work ki base per wehshiana sazaon ka samna kiya "CHURCH" ki taraf sey.
Ap Islamic History sey ek bhi misal le lao ki kisi sciencedan ko us k reserch work ki bina per zinda jalaya gaya ho.
اگر میں نے اپ کو لسٹ دکھا دی تو فر کیا بولو گے -- میں نے اپ کو بتایا ہمارے معاشرے کا یہ بہت بڑا المیہ ہے کے یہاں پہ سچ کو چھپایا جاتا ہے --لیکن انتظار کرو میں اپ کو بتاتا ہوں
 
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امریکا تو دور کی بات ماضی میں جن علاقوں پر شریعت قائم کی گئی تھی ، ان علاقوں میں سائنس دانو ن پر فتوے لگے -- اور سائنس کو شیطانی کام کہا گیا -- آج جو انٹرنیٹ اپ استعمال کر رہے ہیں یہ ان علاقوں سے ہے اور ان لوگوں کی محنت ہے جن کو جیلوں میں بند کیا گیا -- جنوں نے اپ کے لئے اتنی مشکلات اٹھائیں -- ان لوگوں میں ایک نام محمّد ابن زکریا راضی کاہے--- جس کو فارسی مسلمان سائنس دان کہا جاتا تھا -- اصل میں ہمارے سکولوں میں یہ بہت بڑا المیہ ہے کے یہاں پہ سچ نہیں بتایا جاتا -- جھوٹ سکھایا جاتا ہے -- اور یہی بچے بارے ہو جھوٹ بولتے ہیں -- بھلا وہ کیسے ؟؟-- کسی ممبر سے میری بات ہو رہی تو اس نے مختلف شاعروں ، علامہ اقبال ، مرزا غالب ، اور فراز کے تین شعار لکھے ، میں نے جب ان سے پوچھا کے یہ شعار کون سی کتاب سے لئے گیے ہیں تو ابھی تک جواب نہیں آیا --
aap log ko chup kerne ka bada maharat rakte hain, ager aapka yeh soch hain tu yeh aapke ghalat fahmi hain, aap sawal k jawab pe pir se sawal utha dete hain, jho k ghalat hai, waha pe bhi mai ne aapko poetry just es baat ko clear kerne pe share kiye k Allah does exist everywhere, tu usay just ba qool poem aapko share kiye aur voh poem tu ek aam insan ki likhe hue the koi ayat ya hadith se wazeh baat nai the jeska aap reference ka poch rahe the, Mai chahe uske kitab ka bhi aapko bata dete,kia es se aapko koi baat clear hujate? aap kaise maante , jub k aap ayat aur hadeeths with reference per bhi sawal kerte hain.
 

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بھائی ال راضی کی کا میں نے اپ کو بتایا کے اس کو بہت کتب کو جلا دیا گیا --

ابن الی سینا کے اوپر امام غزالی صاحب فتوے لاگتے اور ان کو مرتدد کرار دیا

ابن رشد کو ملک بدر کیا گیا -- کیوں کے اس کے نظریات بنیادی اسلامی عقائد کے خلاف تھے

ان لوگوں کی کتنی تصنیف کو جلا دیا گیا -- ان کو قید کیا گیا اور بھی بوہت سے ہیں میں فر کبی بتاؤں گا --
 

The horror

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aap log ko chup kerne ka bada maharat rakte hain, ager aapka yeh soch hain tu yeh aapke ghalat fahmi hain, aap sawal k jawab pe pir se sawal utha dete hain, jho k ghalat hai, waha pe bhi mai ne aapko poetry just es baat ko clear kerne pe share kiye k Allah does exist everywhere, tu usay just ba qool poem aapko share kiye aur voh poem tu ek aam insan ki likhe hue the koi ayat ya hadith se wazeh baat nai the jeska aap reference ka poch rahe the, Mai chahe uske kitab ka bhi aapko bata dete,kia es se aapko koi baat clear hujate? aap kaise maante , jub k aap ayat aur hadeeths with reference per bhi sawal kerte hain.
الله ہر جگہ مجود نہیں ہے پیاری بہن ، ابھی مجے اپ کو اسلام بھی سکھانا پڑے گے -- جو لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے وہ اصل میں اسلام سے متاثر نہیں بلکے صوفی لوگوں سے متاثر -- الله عرش پہ ہوتا ہے اپ کا قرآن کہتا ہے -- ہاں اگر یہ بات اپ کہتی ہیں کے ہر چیز الله کے علم میں ہے تو فر ٹھیک ہے -- الله ہر جگا مجود نہیں ، یہ پرانا یونانی فلسفہ کے خدا ہر جگا مجود ہوتا ہے -- اور وہ ہر چیز میں نظر اتا ہے --
اپ نے جو اپر بات کی اس سے میرا سوال ہے اپ کے لئے -- کیا لوگوں کو سچ پر مائل کرنے کے لئے جھوٹ بولنا ٹھیک ہے
 

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الله ہر جگہ مجود نہیں ہے پیاری بہن ، ابھی مجے اپ کو اسلام بھی سکھانا پڑے گے -- جو لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے وہ اصل میں اسلام سے متاثر نہیں بلکے صوفی لوگوں سے متاثر -- الله عرش پہ ہوتا ہے اپ کا قرآن کہتا ہے -- ہاں اگر یہ بات اپ کہتی ہیں کے ہر چیز الله کے علم میں ہے تو فر ٹھیک ہے -- الله ہر جگا مجود نہیں ، یہ پرانا یونانی فلسفہ کے خدا ہر جگا مجود ہوتا ہے -- اور وہ ہر چیز میں نظر اتا ہے --
اپ نے جو اپر بات کی اس سے میرا سوال ہے اپ کے لئے -- کیا لوگوں کو سچ پر مائل کرنے کے لئے جھوٹ بولنا ٹھیک ہے
quran ke hi mutabiq Allah sab kuch dekh rha hai us se kuch b poshida nhi
or kisi ka har shay ko dekh lena uske mojod hone ko hi sabit karti hai
lekin aap baqi tamaam aalimon ki tarha quran ko ayaton ko sirf apne maqasid ke tehet istimaal kar ke uski tashreeh karne ki koshish kar rhe hain jo ke bilkol ghalt hai
or dusri baat yeh yonani nhi balke yamani falsafa tha apko parhne main ghalti hoi hai shayed
 

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quran ke hi mutabiq Allah sab kuch dekh rha hai us se kuch b poshida nhi
or kisi ka har shay ko dekh lena uske mojod hone ko hi sabit karti hai
lekin aap baqi tamaam aalimon ki tarha quran ko ayaton ko sirf apne maqasid ke tehet istimaal kar ke uski tashreeh karne ki koshish kar rhe hain jo ke bilkol ghalt hai
or dusri baat yeh yonani nhi balke yamani falsafa tha apko parhne main ghalti hoi hai shayed
جب اپ کہتے ہیں کے الله ہر جگا مجود ہے تو اس کا صرف ایک مطلب بنتا ہے کے الله طبی طور پر اس جگا مجود ہے -- اس کے برعکس قرآن کے مطابق الله کی ایک خاص جگا ہے اور ہر چیز اس کے علم میں ہے -- کوئی چیز اپ کے علم میں ہے تو اس کا یہ مطلب نہیں کے اپ وہاں پہ مجود ہو -- یہ یہاں پہ بنیادی تضاد ہے -- جن کو اپ بنیاد پرست مسلمان کہتے وہ اپ کی اس بات سے راضی نہیں ہوں گے کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے -- اگر اپ کی بات کو گہرائی میں لے کے جایا جائے تو زمین پر بہت سی جگہیں گندی ہیں تو کیا الله وہاں بھی مجود ہے -- یہ اپ جو بات کہ رہے ہیں کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے یہ پنتھیزم سے آیی ہے -- صوفی لوگوں کا یہ عقیدہ ہے دنیا کی ہر چیز میں خدا مجود ہے جس کی وجہ وہ اکثر دعوے کرتے تھے --منصور ال حجاج کو کیوں پھانسی دی گئی کیوں کے اس نے کہا تھا -- انا حق جس کا مطلب ہے اس نے خدائی کا دعوا کیا -- یہ بنیادی فرق ہے مسلمانو ن میں
 

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جب اپ کہتے ہیں کے الله ہر جگا مجود ہے تو اس کا صرف ایک مطلب بنتا ہے کے الله طبی طور پر اس جگا مجود ہے -- اس کے برعکس قرآن کے مطابق الله کی ایک خاص جگا ہے اور ہر چیز اس کے علم میں ہے -- کوئی چیز اپ کے علم میں ہے تو اس کا یہ مطلب نہیں کے اپ وہاں پہ مجود ہو -- یہ یہاں پہ بنیادی تضاد ہے -- جن کو اپ بنیاد پرست مسلمان کہتے وہ اپ کی اس بات سے راضی نہیں ہوں گے کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے -- اگر اپ کی بات کو گہرائی میں لے کے جایا جائے تو زمین پر بہت سی جگہیں گیں گندی ہیں تو کیا الله وہاں بھی مجود ہے -- یہ اپ جو بات کہ رہے ہیں کہ الله ہر جگا مجود ہے یہ پنتھیزم سے آیی ہے -- صوفی لوگوں کا یہ عقیدہ ہے دنیا کی ہر چیز میں خدا مجود ہے جس کی وجہ وہ اکثر دعوے کرتے تھے --منصور ال حجاج کو کیوں پھانسی دی گئی کیوں کے اس نے کہا تھا -- انا حق جس کا مطلب ہے اس نے خدائی کا دعوا کیا -- یہ بنیادی فرق ہے مسلمانو ن میں
yeh to phir apki sooch ka fault hoa meri baat ka fault kaise hoa?coz main to yeh b keh sakta hon ke main abhi apke thread main hon lekin ho sakta hai main zehni tor per kisi or hi dunya main magan hon
phir apki quraani daleel se hi yeh baat sabit horhi hai ke Allah ek khas jagah per hai or har cheez uske ilm main hai to isi ayat ke tarjume ko dusre alfazon main yun b bayan kya jata hai ke Allah ek khas jagah per mojod hai lekin woh sab kuch dekh rha hai apko ek misal se samjhata hon
main agar chat per khara hon or mujhe neeche hone wale tamaam waqiat nazr arhe hain or main koi jurm hota dekh leta hon to adalat main mera bayan kya hoga?
yeh ke main wahan mojod nhi tha lekin maine sab kuch dekh lya?
or adalat mere is bayan per yaqin krlegi? ke jahan tum mojod hi nhi the wahan sab kuch dekh kaise lya?
beshak nhi kre gi islye mera bayan b yehi hoga ke main wahan mojod tha isi lye hi to maine sab kuch dekha b
to mere bhai baat sirf qurani ayaton ki urdu tashreeh ki ajati hai islye aap agar kisi aisi tashreeh ki pervih kr rhe hain jo Allah ki mojodgi ka inkar kr rhi hai to apki woh tashreeh ghalt sabit horhi hai kyunke khuda sab se bara hota hai sab kuch dekh rha hota hai sab kuch uski nazar main hota hai to phir sab jagah woh mojod b hota hai
 

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yeh to phir apki sooch ka fault hoa meri baat ka fault kaise hoa?coz main to yeh b keh sakta hon ke main abhi apke thread main hon lekin ho sakta hai main zehni tor per kisi or hi dunya main magan hon
phir apki quraani daleel se hi yeh baat sabit horhi hai ke Allah ek khas jagah per hai or har cheez uske ilm main hai to isi ayat ke tarjume ko dusre alfazon main yun b bayan kya jata hai ke Allah ek khas jagah per mojod hai lekin woh sab kuch dekh rha hai apko ek misal se samjhata hon
main agar chat per khara hon or mujhe neeche hone wale tamaam waqiat nazr arhe hain or main koi jurm hota dekh leta hon to adalat main mera bayan kya hoga?
yeh ke main wahan mojod nhi tha lekin maine sab kuch dekh lya?
or adalat mere is bayan per yaqin krlegi? ke jahan tum mojod hi nhi the wahan sab kuch dekh kaise lya?
beshak nhi kre gi islye mera bayan b yehi hoga ke main wahan mojod tha isi lye hi to maine sab kuch dekha b
to mere bhai baat sirf qurani ayaton ki urdu tashreeh ki ajati hai islye aap agar kisi aisi tashreeh ki pervih kr rhe hain jo Allah ki mojodgi ka inkar kr rhi hai to apki woh tashreeh ghalt sabit horhi hai kyunke khuda sab se bara hota hai sab kuch dekh rha hota hai sab kuch uski nazar main hota hai to phir sab jagah woh mojod b hota hai
Yeh baat ap muje se nahi muslim bhai se poch lo kay Allah har jaga majood nahi-- yeh topic paro--es mian qurani ayoton se hiawala dia gaya hai -- kay Allah har jagah majood nahi

Allah is not everywhere- but is above His Throne & is close to us by His Knowledge

Praise be to Allaah.

It is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah and by the consensus (ijmaa’) of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah that Allaah is above His heavens on His Throne, and that He is the Exalted, Most High. He is Above all things, and there is nothing that is above Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?”

[al-Sajdah 32:4]

“Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things [Yoonus 10:3]

“To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allaah unless and until they are followed by good deeds) [Faatir 35:10]

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him) [al-Hadeed 57:3]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You are the Most High and there is nothing above You…”

There are many similar ayaat and ahaadeeth. But at the same time, Allaah tells us that He is with His slaves wherever they are:

“Have you not seen that Allaah knows whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth? There is no Najwa (secret counsel) of three but He is their fourth (with His Knowledge, while He Himself is over the Throne, over the seventh heaven), — nor of five but He is their sixth (with His Knowledge), — nor of less than that or more but He is with them (with His Knowledge) wheresoever they may be” [al-Mujaadilah 58:7]

Allaah has combined mention of His being above His Throne with mention of His being with His slaves in one aayah, where He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be [al-Hadeed 57:4]

Saying that Allaah is with us does not mean that He is mixed with (or dwells in) His creation; rather He is with His slaves by His knowledge. He is above His Throne and nothing is hidden from Him of what they do. With regard to the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (by Our Knowledge)” [Qaaf 50:16]

- most of the mufassireen said that what is meant is that He is near by means of His angels whose task it is to record people’s deeds. And those who said that it means that He is near explained it as meaning that He is near by His knowledge, as is said concerning how He is with us.

This is the view of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, who affirm that Allaah is above His creation and that He is also with His slaves, and they state that He is far above dwelling in His created beings. With regard to the denial of all Divine attributes as voiced by the Jahamiyyah and their followers, they deny that His Essence is above His creatures and that He rose above His Throne, and they say that He is present in His Essence everywhere. We ask Allaah to guide the Muslims.
 

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Yeh baat ap muje se nahi muslim bhai se poch lo kay Allah har jaga majood nahi-- yeh topic paro--es mian qurani ayoton se hiawala dia gaya hai -- kay Allah har jagah majood nahi

Allah is not everywhere- but is above His Throne & is close to us by His Knowledge

Praise be to Allaah.

It is proven in the Qur’aan and Sunnah and by the consensus (ijmaa’) of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah that Allaah is above His heavens on His Throne, and that He is the Exalted, Most High. He is Above all things, and there is nothing that is above Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?”

[al-Sajdah 32:4]

“Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things [Yoonus 10:3]

“To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allaah unless and until they are followed by good deeds) [Faatir 35:10]

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him) [al-Hadeed 57:3]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You are the Most High and there is nothing above You…”

There are many similar ayaat and ahaadeeth. But at the same time, Allaah tells us that He is with His slaves wherever they are:

“Have you not seen that Allaah knows whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth? There is no Najwa (secret counsel) of three but He is their fourth (with His Knowledge, while He Himself is over the Throne, over the seventh heaven), — nor of five but He is their sixth (with His Knowledge), — nor of less than that or more but He is with them (with His Knowledge) wheresoever they may be” [al-Mujaadilah 58:7]

Allaah has combined mention of His being above His Throne with mention of His being with His slaves in one aayah, where He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be [al-Hadeed 57:4]

Saying that Allaah is with us does not mean that He is mixed with (or dwells in) His creation; rather He is with His slaves by His knowledge. He is above His Throne and nothing is hidden from Him of what they do. With regard to the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (by Our Knowledge)” [Qaaf 50:16]

- most of the mufassireen said that what is meant is that He is near by means of His angels whose task it is to record people’s deeds. And those who said that it means that He is near explained it as meaning that He is near by His knowledge, as is said concerning how He is with us.

This is the view of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, who affirm that Allaah is above His creation and that He is also with His slaves, and they state that He is far above dwelling in His created beings. With regard to the denial of all Divine attributes as voiced by the Jahamiyyah and their followers, they deny that His Essence is above His creatures and that He rose above His Throne, and they say that He is present in His Essence everywhere. We ask Allaah to guide the Muslims.
main jaanta tha aap apne ilm se mujhe qatayi mutmain nhi kar sakte islye apna fatwa sahi sabit karne ke lye yaqeenan kisi musalman bhai ka topic pesh kardenge jo bilkol according to quran o hadees hi hoga
lekin meri zaati raye yeh hai ke jitna maine is internet ke through ilm hasil kya hai us ilm main tamam logon ki koi ek raaye ya koi ek hatmi faisla nahi hoaa
balke her topic per yahan tak ke Allah ki wahdaniyat per bhi logon ke differnts views dekhne ko mile or koi kisi ek baat per muttafiq nazar nahi aaya
phir mere muhtaram bhai aap is topic per kisi muallim ki persnol thinking ko reason bana ker kaise mutmain kr sakte hain kisi ko? ya phir main bhi aapki tarha khud se is topic per koi daleel pesh nhi karun or apki hi tarha google se is topic per differnt mazmon dhond ker jo qurani ayaat or ahadees per hi mubni honge woh pesh karun or apki baat ko ghalt sabit karun?
or yaqeen karen jitni dair apko mere us posting ka reply dene main or us reply ke lye net se is topic ke mutalliq malomaat dhond ker faraham karne main lagi haina mujhe us se kafi kam time lage ga
lekin mera aap se yeh sawal hai ke kya yeh thik hai ke hum ek dusre ko mutmain karne ke bajai ek aisi race main par jain jis main sirf or sirf tez raftaari ka kaam ho?
ya hamen sirf woh malomaat share karni chahiye jo hum na sirf khud jaante ho balke us per yaqin b rakhte hon?[DOUBLEPOST=1346757269][/DOUBLEPOST]
jee nai, Belkul ghalat hain, {)^})
per aapko such pe kaun mayel kersakta hain, aap tu pahlay se jhoot ko such and such ko jhoot maan chuke hain.
Quran kehta hai
or humne inki aankhon per pardah daal rakha hai or dewaar khari kar di hai to na yeh kuch dekh sakte hain or na hi kuch sun sakte hain
to main apse ek sawal karta hon ke woh log jinko Allah Rabbul izzat khud hidayat dena pasand nhi farmayi or unko hamesha ke lye jahannum ka mustahiq tehraya aise logon ka unki bad kismati per bad naseebi per mazaq urana thik hoa ya unke saamne pura quran khol kr rakh dena or unko mutmain karna thik hoa?
jabke yeh main or aap khud bhi jante hain ke Allah jisko hidayat dena chahta hai to phir us insan per quran ki sirf ek ayat hi asar kar jati hai
lekin woh log ke jinke bare main quran yeh kehta hai ke inke saamne quran khol ker bhi rakh do to yeh imaan lane wale nahi
aise logon ke saamne zid behes karna kaise theek ho jaiga jabke woh zid behes apni islaah ke lye nhi balke sirf or sirf islaam main buraiyan dhondne ke lye kar rha ho ya sirf or sirf muslims ke aqayid ko ghalt sabit krne ke lye kar raha ho?
haan aise logon ke aitrezaat ka javab dena farz hota hai lekin tab kya jab uske aitrezaat ke javab main quran khol ker bhi rakh dya jai jesa ke maine ek thread main dekha tha hoorain ne qurani ayat se bohot hi zabardast wazahat ki thi lekin woh log ke jin ko Allah ne hi is qabil nhi samjha ke woh hidayat ke raste per asaken phir hum kon hote hain aise logon per rehem kha ker unhe raah e raast ki talqeen karne wale?
 

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!!India!!
Mashallah boht acha likha hai bhai aapne!!
Waqai me ISLAM jaisa mad-hab na kabhi aaya hai aur na aayega!!
Agar hum in baaton ko samaj jaaen to kaamil e imaan hosakte hai!!
Allah hum sabko mukammal deen per chalne wala banade Amen!!:)
 

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Mere Bhai In logon per jo bhi problems ai in ki sceintific research ki waja sey nahi balkay in k apnay aqaid ki waja sey ayn hen or is mey Mazhab kaha sey involve ho gaya. kisi bhi state mey ap rehtey ho to wahan k rules apko folow karney partey hen. Ab agar state sey panga logey to ye sab to hoga na.
or jahan tak baat hey fatwa laganey ki to jab koi shaksh Mazhab ko nahi manta to usay chahye k mazhab k mamley mey apna moo band rakhay.
 

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m agree wid u actually yaar yeh jo internet haina is per puri dunya hoti hai or puri dunya main har type ke insaan hote hain or insaano main alag alag mazahib ke log hote hain to jab ek hi jagha per yeh saari cheezen jama hojati haina to aise logon se saamna b hota hai jo dusron ke mazahib ko sahi nhi samjh rahe hote lekin baat jab dusre mazahib ki agayi hai to dunya main tezi se phelta hoa sirf ek yehi mazhab to hai jisse islaam kaha jata hai to zahir hai jo mazhab dunya main is qadar tezi se phel rha hai to us mazhab ko pasand na karne wale log saraapa e ehtijaaj to banenge hi na to agar un hi logon main se ginti ke kuch log islamic threads main aker islaam per nuqta cheeni shuro kr dete hain to is se islaam per kitna farq par jata hai?balke maine to yehi note kya hai ke jahan kahin islaam per tanqeed ki ja rhi hoti hai wahan ke msgs parhne walon ka imaan mazeed mazbot hi horha hota hai chahen woh islaam khilaaf baton ke javab quran o hadees ke mutabiq de ker ho ya logon ka is baat per barhta hoa interest ke islaam main aisa hai kya jo is per itni ungliyan uthai ja rhi hain or phir aise logon ka islaam ki taleemaat parh ker ho moqe ki munasibat se ek shair b yad agaya

Islaam ki Fitrat Main Qudrat Ne Lachak Di Hai
Utna Hi Yeh Ubhre Ga Jitna Ke Dabao Gay
 

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Mere Bhai In logon per jo bhi problems ai in ki sceintific research ki waja sey nahi balkay in k apnay aqaid ki waja sey ayn hen or is mey Mazhab kaha sey involve ho gaya. kisi bhi state mey ap rehtey ho to wahan k rules apko folow karney partey hen. Ab agar state sey panga logey to ye sab to hoga na.
or jahan tak baat hey fatwa laganey ki to jab koi shaksh Mazhab ko nahi manta to usay chahye k mazhab k mamley mey apna moo band rakhay.
a10.GIF
 
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jee nai, Belkul ghalat hain, {)^})
per aapko such pe kaun mayel kersakta hain, aap tu pahlay se jhoot ko such and such ko jhoot maan chuke hain.
کیا آپ جو بات بتاتانی ہیں وہ سچ ہے -- آپ کو کیوں یقین ہے آپ نے سچ کو پا لیا ہے -- اور میں تو سچ کی تلاش میں ہوں -- ویسے ہر مذہب والا یہی کہتا جو آپ کہ رہی ہیں --آپ نے پہلے سے ہی ذہن بنایا ہے کہ آپ سچ پر ہیں تو فر آپ اپنی بات کو اپنے پر لاگو کر کر دیکھو اور میں نہیں کہ رہا میں سچے راستے پہ ہوں[DOUBLEPOST=1346819182][/DOUBLEPOST]
Quran kehta hai
Sari batain choro, fahad bhai jo logon ko dokha detay hain ID Badal kar Quran uss kay baray main kia kehta hai :)
 
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