apke pas na mere sawalon ka jawab hy na ap kabi de paugi
my ne ref ke sath ye sabit kia hy ke shia quran ko nahi mante unka ganda aqeeda unki kitabon se naqal kia hy
Reference kidar hay bro?
araay kya aap shia shia lagaye hue ho?
Hoor Sissss iske liye aap alag thread lagayen..javab wahan inshAllah milega...hmm
Main yahan Mojud dono members se kuch sawalaat poochna chahungi ,,i hope aap dono references k saath details btayain gaye INSHA ALLAH!
jaisa k Quran paak may Irshaad hua DEen ki TAKmeel ka aur nabuat k khaatme ka,,Islam mukammal deen hay hazrat Muhammad(PBUH) aakhri nabi hain,,na in k baad koi nabi aayega na islam k ilawa koi deen hoga!
Quran paak aakhri AAsmani kitab hay jo aakhri nabi(SAWW) par nazil hui jiski hifazat ka zimma khud ALLAH tala ne liya,,matlab ussi dor may ye Mukammal ho gai aur ALLAH ne hamesha k liye hifazat ka zimma le liya ALLAH k Ehkamaat ko Manna Emaan lana Aik Musalman ki raza aur farz hay aur honi chahiye! (yahan tak to DOno k views same hain na)?
IS k baad Ikhtalaf kahan hay? Quran paak me tehreef hui aisa q kaha jata hay?
Quran paak ki kin aayat ya kin baaton ko le k logon ko lagta hay k ye taleemat may tabdili ki gai hay?
Agar aisa hota to ALLAH tala Pichli tmam AAsmani kitabon (q k un may rad-o-badal ki thi logon ne) un k liye bhi kaha k Quran paak jamya kitab hay .. issi ki taleemat pe amal karain..magar tmam aasmani kitabon ko manna musalamn pe farz hay,,,Agar Quran paak may bhi tehreef ya rad_o_badal ki gunjaysh hoti to kia ALLAH tala koi aur hukam na farmaate? ALLAH ne koi Hifazat ka zumma liya ho to kia us may garbar ki gunjaysh hay?
Quran paak ki Konsi aayat se ahl Tasheeh inkar karte ya radd-o-badal akrte hain?
Konsi ahadith ko nhi maante?
aap dono q k alag alag views rakhte hain is topic pe TO aap log general baat karain phir usse logically prove karain plz,,Quran paak ki aayat n Sahih Bukhari ki Ahadith se hi prove karain plz!
n 2nd Q:
Kia sihaba karam(R.A) may se kisi ki bhi shaan may gustakhi aik musalman kar sakta hay? kai wo ALLAH ki narazgi ka bays nhi? n plz lemme Know SIHABA KARAM(R.A) ki kia definition hay Sahaba Karaam(R.A) kisse kaha jata hay?
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Reference kidar hay bro?
hay to dain ,,warna ye post delete hogi!
n 2nd thing aayaat ka reference daint o plzz pas manzar k saath dain matlab peeche kia baat ho rhi hay us k saath!
"Aapas may reham dil hain" is se kuch sahi samajh nhi aa rhi kon aapas may reham dil hain...to plz sabki samajh may aaye is k liye detail se jawab dain!
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khilaf kisko bolte pehle ye wazeh karo ap
my ne kch khilaf ny likha ju bi baat kahi wu unki kitabo se kahi agar waqai ye baten wo kitabo me nahi to tab wo khilaf hungi
my ju kam kar raha hu wo Allah se sawab ki umeed se hi kar raha hu in sha Allah muje bharpur ajar milega Alhamdlillah
is thread me shar ki shurat apke post se huyi
achaaaaa.........!
iska koi sabut daleel hawala ?
kia ap sabit kar sakte huapke qaul ku?
kia musalman ka ye aqeeda hy ki shia ki kitabo me ju likha hy wo hazrat Ali r.a ne kaha?
mujme itni himmat nahi aur na hi meri auqat hy ke my itni jurrat karu ke hazrat Ali r.z ko bura kahu ya unhe galat sabit karu
ye gandi jurrat tu shia ne ki hy un par jhoot band kar musalmano ke tukde kie aur shar aur fasad barpa kia aur kar rahe hy
lekeeren kaun peetra idar sab dekh rahe hy
ap bs hakke maro yehi kar sakte apni kisi bat par daleel tu ny desakte
zara meri di huyi daleelo ko galat sabit to karo ya mano ke ye ganda aqeeda shia ka hy aur ap iski difa kar rahe ho aur khullam khulla elaan kar rahe ho ki maujooda quran mukammal ny hy nauzubillah
g bilkul aur ye kam shia ne kia hy, aur lanat hu shia par
bhej dia ji
g my ne pehle b kaha ye tu bs shuruat hy aur b lagaunga fikar not
aur ye naya imam kia hy lugon ku ye b batatun imam e gaib aur is pr paleed shia ka kia aqeeda hy wu bi daleeeeeeeeeeeel k sath aur shia ke masoomeen imam ka b fikar not[DOUBLEPOST=1341646215][/DOUBLEPOST]bahar ap se guzarish hy ki hungama karne ki bajae shar phailana ke bajae topic par bat karu aur ref k sath shukria[DOUBLEPOST=1341646452][/DOUBLEPOST]my chahta hu ke shia jo b is forum par hy ankhe khule aur apni kitaben pare isme kesi gandi baten hy aur apni islah kare
bahar se chand sawalat
kya ap maujooda quran ko mukammal quran manti hu?
kya aap abu bakar r.a ko khalifa awwal aur tamam insano me ambia ke baad sab se afzal maanti hu?
kya aap umra r.a ko khalifa duwam manti hu? kya aap unki izzat o ehteram karti hu?
kya aap usman r.a ko khalifa thalis manti hu? unki izzar karti hu?
kya aap islam par yaqeen rakhti hu ya shiat par?
gussa na hote hue araam se jawab di jiye
g aur wohi kaam is thread me ap kar rahi hy ek b ref ny di apne apni baat ki
Aare Star sis chhorein naa plz aap to away rahein is mubaahise ke matter se
star24 sis maine aapko hargiz warn nhi kiya aapko yhi bola hay k alag thread lga k sawalaat zarur poochain,,
aur sab aik dusre pe comment karne lagge!well said
[DOUBLEPOST=1341718449][/DOUBLEPOST]ChEeRfUl>:) bro maine aapko wazea alfaaz may samjhaya tha k irrelevant behas aik janib se hogi to main usse warn karungi uski posts delete karungi ,,magar ussi irrelevant post pe irrelevant jawbaat diye gaye siwaye first post k koi bhi post Ref k saath nhi thi is liye maine dono ki delete ki!g muje bhi yhi janna hay us k liye maine bhi kuch sawlaat pooche magar jajwab ghaib hay,,jang jaari hay!
Hummmmmmm yeh dono MUSALMAANON ke qaiym karda firqe hain
yhi itni si baat ye sahib-e-aql-o-danish log khud samajh laite to itni behas hoti hi nhi!hoorain
aur ager ap sabko ye boldey k lanat ka word na use krain aur na hi koi kisi ko kafir boley jo jaisa hai us n waisa hi rehna aur hidayat tou sirf ALLAH dainey wala hai jhagron sey sirf gali glloch hi ho gi...
Aur bas itni si baat ap sahib e samjh samjhkar is gustakhi ki thread ko pahle hi step p close kardete to ye naubat hi nahi ati aur na agay kisi ki himmat hoti threads p threads banane ki..
