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Zia_Hayderi

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You mean there are two types of diseases, superficial disease and inner disease. Superficial disease can be cured but inward disease can not be cured by medicines.In past time when physicians (ved ji, hakim ji) were not having sufficient knowledge, they used to say some thing like that, patient can not be cured because this disease is a result of his past life karma.
In Tibetan Medicine, these are called karmic diseases. According to you it is not curable, even then there are medicines and therapies do restore the system and relieve pain and control disease state. It depends on the physician’s experience. Experienced physicians can discover many of the psychic and physical complaints. Some hidden diseases may be difficult to reveal. But pulse reading alone may not be sufficient to measure all disorders, therefore physicians also use other examination techniques to discover more hidden disorders, e.g. urine analysis, tongue diagnostic, ear and facial diagnosis and especially questioning. They are very important elements of the Tibetan medical diagnosis field.​
The believe that patient is getting punishment of his past sin, make the situation miserable for the patient and he would have to face abhorrence instead of sympathy from the society. Techniques and instruments could not develop as needed with the development of time and disease.​
 

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no i m not dividing them in superficial and inward diseases...i m just mentioning the seat of the disease...if the seat of the disease is on physique only then can be cured easily...but if it is hidden deep then remedy require much effort...medicines are not the the solutions and cure ...medicines only help body to heal(healing mechanism is in body and not in medicine)...they act like catalyst and support for body if they are not anti natural...
i mean to say that in case of karmic diseases medicines have limitations bcoz all medicines are matter...gross can not go in subtle levles...etheric levels..astral levels...
yes therapies help...in such cases ..bcoz they adress and act 9on deeper layers of the being...but still they are not the solutions...

i agree thast many different types of diagnosis are required...but they are either showing imbalances on gross matter level or humor level...

but real reason is far far behind of the psyche...probably on unconcious level...that is why for inborn diseases anthroposophical medicine helps...for astral level and etheric level acupuncture,reiki,psychology and other alternative medicines techniques help...for gross level allopathy,osteopathy,massage,spondylotherapy etc etc are more effective...

ayurvedic,tibetan,unani,chinese,siddha medicines are preparewd in different tones to act on gross and subtle layers both...

but finally the real swasthya (swa established) is fully dependent on the person himself...otherwise those who does not have disease physically or psychologically should be full of joy,tranquility,inner content...but this is not the case...many so called healthy people have inner discontentment... bcoz every action has reaction...no god is needed to give punishment...this is inner mechanism of universe...it is like if we take pendulumn on one side of watch,,that means automatically the pendulum has gathered momentum to go to other side...no god was needed to send it on the other side...

medicine try to take away the pain or tranquilize but the reason of the disease lie hidden...hence for real cure person will have to develop himself...the disease are not result of sin..but result of wrong action,emotion and thoughts due to which reaction mechanism activated on him as a result......
 

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Ayurvedic, Tibetan, Unani, Chinese, Siddha, Homeopathic, Allopathic, spiritual healing, and other types of treatment are not perfect. All types of physicians try to correct the condition- whatsoever is the cause of disease.​
Immunity is a body mechanism against diseases. When it is not sufficient to treat the disease, patient need physician help. At this point physician cannot say it is a karma disease; even then he is failing to treat it. It is the efficacy of medicine or wrong diagnosis which results in the failure of therapy…​
 

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even if physician treats the disease does person become healthy...physical/mental discomfort may go...but what about spiritual discomfort...and all discomforts are disease that is not at ease....diseases originats/happens at physical level,mental and spiritual levels but manifestation of them is perceptible to normal human being only in mind or physique... .so he cures symtoms most of the times...
deeper spiritual healings are done by meditations,yoga,dance,music,prayer,tantra,hypnosis etc but doctors hardly recommend patients these practices...
these all methods(except hynosis) have power to change person into true healthy being which i call as divine being...bcoz health and divinity are not away...
for me only jesus,buddha,muhammad...etc are healthy...others all are sick at various levels...
 

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[FONT=&quot]If yoga, dance, music, etc. were good for incurable diseases like cancer, diabetes, Parkinsonism, etc., patients would go for it. There is no clinical trial to show the real worth of such type of practices.[/FONT]​
 

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for these real experiments and clinical trials should be taken....but all mesuring equipments are of matter and unable to register subtle vibrations...recently kirlian photography is putting light on auric healings...but for other measurements science have to go long way...taoist and yogic demos across the world are dazzling scintists nowdays with no explanations...but sooner or later answers will be discovered...
prayer therapies are getting famous day by day...and have no concrete substance to measure but still they heal..
there cannot be clinical evidences of each and everything...clinincal trials have their own inherent limitations...
patients are going to doctors due to mass conditioning and immediate relief...that is why best doctor cures more number of persons than who is not famous...though both are giving same medicines to same diseases...
please read power of subconcious mind by napolian hill....many examples will show how when doctor gave up they were healed by autosuggestions...and other methods...
 

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In clinical trials, there is a placebo group, they get dummy medicines and show some healing as well (not more than 35%), definitely this healing is based on body natural responses, courage to face disease, etc..; such type of response is not sufficient to cure patient or control the dis-ease of patient.​
 
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