Reality Of Dec , 21 , 2012 And What's The Muslim Scholars Believes Regarding This.... Part 1

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first of all thanks for bringing this topic up n sharing ur views on it. actually abi saturday ki hi baat hai k one ov my cousin frm Norway rang n while talking to me, she just came up to this topic dat dere will be no sunlight frm Dec 23rd to Dec 25th. to be honest i didn't know abt it, i was already aware dat dere r so many predictions going on abt world will b end in 2012 but i didn't believe it completely coz according to Islam dere r still so many n basic things to occur before the doomsday happen. kher, mene usi waqt google pe search kiya if it was true, n bad thing k jo pehle search aai wohi dil dehla dene wali thi. da content in it was extremely depressing k ek lamhe k liye main b yaqeen kar bethi, @ChoCo bhai n sum others frnds of mine (who r on FB) are witnesses . ye khabar sun k mujhe qayamath ki wo nishani yaad aai k jab qayamat aaye gi tou ek bohat lambi raat hogi, aur jab din shurooh hoga tou zameen pe tabahi aaye gi etc....​
well us k baad kaafi der tak mera mind yehi baat sochta raha, but den i realized k maana k dunia main qayamat k kaafi saare nishaniyan appear ho chuki hain, lekin abi b bari aur chand aur nishaniyan baqi hain. jin k baare main siwaye ALLAH k koi nai jaanta. i dunno wat dese scientists think ov dereselves, y dey trying to overcome people's mind n emotions????​
aapki post main kaafi baaten sahi hain, i agree but i would request u k jo b waqiat aap ne bataye un k references b post kar diya kijiye taa k kisi kisam k shak ki gunajayesh baqi na rahe:) qayamath kab aaye gi, we dunno abt dat, but one thing we can do is, prepare ourselves for it. we can try correcting our amaal n do good which will b beneficial for us in hereafter.........ye nishaniyan b unhi k liye hain jo emaan wale hain....​
end main ek baat point out karna chaoongi k this is the major issue nowadays k hum apne against koi choti c baat b sun k hyper ho jaate hain, dis is not wat our religion(Islam) teach us. har cheez ko tahammul aur bardasht se b sort out kiya jaa sakta hai...​
so @InnoXious bro, waqiyat k references search kar k post kar dijiye, its ok aap acche se search kariye, koi masla nai. aur agar aap nai dhoond saktay den m sorry, we will hv to edit ur post, n remove the content which hv no references. but agar is topic se related koi b cheez hadith n Qur'an ki roshni main aapke pass ho tou staff se keh k aap apne first post main edit karwa sakte hain:)
yes @Nelly was disturbed and i witnessed it myself. Per i told her k Itna socha na kro Jaldi boorhi ho jao ge :p Lolz Jokes apart. Koi b yh nahi janta k Qayamat kb Ani Siwaye ALLAH k. But yes we should be prepared for it. And One more thing that i will like to add is that Reference k sath b sharing ko hamein check zaroor kr lena chahiyay ya koi aik member check lazmi kr le k aya aisa he hai and he can tell all others k aisa he hai i have checked it. Because hm logon ki thinking aisi hai k bs agar hamein reference mil jae tau hm yaqeen kr letey hain without even checking. So @kool~nomi and @S_ChiragH bro se request kroon ga k woh tasdeeq kr dia krein jitnon ki woh kr skein. I will try to do the same. And zaroori nahi k Yh dono he krein. Everyone should do that.


@ Nelly ChoCo hoorain kool~nomi S_ChiragH

I am still fails to give the accurate Reference ..
Sorry yar, mai dopher sy hi is mai laga hoa hon but can't find reference on net ,
Ager mujhy thora sa tym dy sakty ho to or dy do .
Otherwise do whatever u want :) del karna hai kar do del :)
but Zara ya socho k why i am lying wid u ?
ANd amm sorry for my bad behaviour MR Nomi....
Sorry :)

@ topic ...

mujhy kuch cheezain mili hai jis ka reference mai Qasas Al Ambia mai search kar raha hon ..
Ya baat mainy bht jaga dhekhi hai ...
Seee >>> as i heard>>> One time Jibrail :as: was commanded to go and destroy a city...Hazrat Jibrail :as: being the leader of angels, had enough authority to ask Allah :swt:, that Oh Allah, why do you destroy this nation which has achieved so much? So Allah :swt: replies, for that, you'll have to go and see for yourself how far they have advanced...

So Jibrail :as: disguised himself as a man and walked to the outskirts of the city he was to destroy and came upon a few children playing ina a field...he approached them and inquired from one of the children, where is Jibrail? The child drew some calculations in the sand with a stick and anwsered, he is one of us, and since it's not me, it must be you...So Jibrail :as: destroyed the city...(The name of the city is not given)...

ya mai nay net bht logon ko dhekha hai post kary hoee .. but me reference k sath search karing ...

link > http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/137002-atlantis.html[DOUBLEPOST=1355180752][/DOUBLEPOST]
xzy IN http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=27613 also said like i told .....
He said I was watching a documentary on the history channel on the Mayan civilization. It is understood that the mayan civilization had decoded many a concepts which are beyond the realm of modern man. It is believed that those guys, back in the day could foretell amongst many things, their death, the destruction of their civilization and when dooms day would strike. Now the big question is, what does Islam say about this.
There is a story, I dont know if its from the Islamic traditions or from the Quran, but it goes something like this. God told Gabriel to go down and destroy a nation because they knew too much. So Gabriel descended down and came across 3 young boys playing by the sea. He approached the kids in an image of a man and asked them one by one , do you know where the angel Gabriel is right now ?
The first boy replied: based on my calculation, Gabriel is not in Heaven right now.
The second boy replied : based on my calculation, Gabriel is on this earth right now.
The third boy replied: based on my calculation, Gabriel is either you or me.
Long story short the whole civilization of destroyed. It is said that these people could predict future based on the merits of star gazing and reading palms. Its little wonder that Islam today forbids us from involving ourselves from fortune telling. Lesson to be learnt is , that a flourishing nation was destroyed based on their prowess of predicting future. Sadly today the soothsayer business is as lucrative as ever. Even when Islam condemns fortune telling as shirk,an unforgivable sin. Yet many amongst us choose to think otherwise.
My question to all of you is that ...
k
kuch na kuch asa to hai na jo mery jaisy or bhi log ny asa sunna hai .. :/
@InnoXious its alright! Ap ko jitna time chahiyay ap le lo. Yahan koi race tau nahi lgi hui. Ap achay se detail research kr lo k kia baat hai. Because me ne b kafi logon se yh baat suni hai jis ka ap tazkara kr rhay. Per aj tk koi mustanad reference nahi mila.


ok this is interesting..
Let me share what I know...
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yeh baat to mujhe bhi hazam nahi ho rahi k ek Qoom ko destry kia gaya sirf or sirf zada ilm hone ki based par.. but yeh baat hum ko is lie ajeb lag rai hai kiun k humare pass full information nahi hai..
Rahi baat Jabrail A.S k waqaiya k to I cannot confirm that...
but mujhe itna zaroor yaad hai k ek aysi qoom thi jo apna dimagh hum say zada use karte thay or un k pass ilm tha or na sirf ilm tha bal k un k pass jadu tha jo k Sheetan nay un ko sekhaya tha. or isi terhan dunaya may Jadu introduce howa tha... and I believe wo log us knowledge ki madad say nature may conflict peda karte thay ya accurately predict kar lia karte thay... and right now only Allah knows why exactly they were been destroyed.

now, rahi baat Dajjal ki to upper kaha gaya hai k Plant gawahi de ga.. can you tell me the name of the plant jo nahi gawahi de ga.. ?

Also, kisi nay kaha k Dajjah jis pahar may qaed hai wo Israel may hai ya phir Iran ki taraf.. jahan tak mujhe pata hai wo pahar ek island par majood hai or wo island Bermuda Triangle k ander hai. Or bermuda Triangle Us and Mexico ki side par hai or Mayan Civilization bhi Mexico ki taraf howa karte thay.

Source is wikipedia.
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ek or baat yeh hai k Sheetan(iblees) ka throne (badshahi takht) samander k upper hai.. or akser scholars yeh baat kehte hain k wo throne Bermuda Triangle k ander majood hai... is baat ka prove yeh hai k akser ayse waqaiyaat peesh aye hain bermuda triangle par jo k scientifically ya technically possible nahi thay... let me tell you few

* The USS Cyclops captained by the eccentric Lieutenant Commander George W. Worley who frequented the bridge of the ship wearing a long underwear and bowler hat left Barbados on March 4, 1918 to Baltimore. On March 13 when the ship was long overdue, a massive search ensued but no trace of the largest ship in the Navy or the 300 people on board were ever found.
*In late November and early December 1941, two of the USS Cyclop’s sister ships, Proteus and Nereus both vanished on separate runs from the Virgin Islands to the USA.
*On January 30, 1948 the aircraft Star Tiger disappeared without a trace en route to Bermuda with 31 people on board moments after the pilot radioed to ground crew that they would be shortly arriving on schedule.
* Almost to the year on January 17, 1949, the Star Tiger’s sister, the Star Ariel, was about to switch from radio contact with its departure point in Bermuda to radio contact with its destination Jamaica, when it vanished. The pilot had reported perfect weather.
*On December 28, 1948, a DC-3 carrying 35 people from Puerto Rico also disappeared shortly after the pilot radioed a similar message that it was just 80km south of Miami.
*Perhaps the bizarrest episode of them all was the case of the Mary Celeste found drifting in December 1872 minus her captain, his wife, child and eight crewmen. The last position recorded in the log placed her a hundred miles west of the Azores, a path that took her close to the Bermuda Triangle.
*The precursor to the Bermuda Triangle thriller is recorded in Christopher Columbus (discoverer of modern America) ship’s log vision reports that in 1492, shortly before making land in the West Indies, that he and his crew had observed "a large ball of fire fall into the sea and that the ships compass was behaving erratically and on October 11, on the eve of the historic landfall, Columbus and another man saw a light over the water which vanished abruptly."
(( google each incident for reference ))

Or sheetan ka samander par throne hone ka reference yeh hai:
Jabir (Radi Allah Anhu) reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The throne of Iblis is upon the ocean and he sends detachments (to different parts) inorder to put people to trial and the most important figure in his eyes is one who is most notorious in sowing the seed of dissension.[Sahih Muslim: Book 039 'Kitab Sifat Al-Qiyamah wa'l Janna wa'n-Nar', Number 6754]


Or jo @Nelly nay kaha k 3 din tak raat rahe gi yeh baat aj kaal may har kissi say sun raha hon... after exam I will do my research on that.. or is par jo mujhe info hai yeh k 2012 December may ek din ayse ane wala hai jis may tamam planet and moons soraj k sath aligned kareingay.... matlab soraj say lay kar last planet tak sab planet ek hi seedh may ageingay... jis ki wajah say earth ko soraj ki roshni deer may mile gi...
or jo baat Nelly nay kahi k lambi raat hogi or us k baad tabhai start ho gi to I would like get some reference on that please...

And I cant wait for the part 2 for this thread... Thanks for all the information !!

Regards,
Yes don these all incidents cannot be explained yet. Some scientists claim that there is a black hole that connects one universe to other. Others are spellbound on the phenomenon. Nice Sharing of information. Muje yh Ibless k throne wali baat nahi pta thi. I will read more about it.


In the End I would like to request k All Muslims are brothers so lets not get angry with eachother. We can have a healthy discussion over here so lets not spoil it. Jaisa k Me ne suna hai k *ilm Momin ki miraas hai ussay jahan se milay hasil kr lo* so lets keep on conveying apt and true information and guide everyone to the righteous path. MAY ALLAH forgive our sins and guide us to the righteous Path Ameen :)

@kool~nomi chalo @InnoXious nu jhappi pao :D :D shabash :D :D
 

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ok this is interesting..
Let me share what I know...
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yeh baat to mujhe bhi hazam nahi ho rahi k ek Qoom ko destry kia gaya sirf or sirf zada ilm hone ki based par.. but yeh baat hum ko is lie ajeb lag rai hai kiun k humare pass full information nahi hai..
Rahi baat Jabrail A.S k waqaiya k to I cannot confirm that...
but mujhe itna zaroor yaad hai k ek aysi qoom thi jo apna dimagh hum say zada use karte thay or un k pass ilm tha or na sirf ilm tha bal k un k pass jadu tha jo k Sheetan nay un ko sekhaya tha. or isi terhan dunaya may Jadu introduce howa tha... and I believe wo log us knowledge ki madad say nature may conflict peda karte thay ya accurately predict kar lia karte thay... and right now only Allah knows why exactly they were been destroyed.

now, rahi baat Dajjal ki to upper kaha gaya hai k Plant gawahi de ga.. can you tell me the name of the plant jo nahi gawahi de ga.. ?

Also, kisi nay kaha k Dajjah jis pahar may qaed hai wo Israel may hai ya phir Iran ki taraf.. jahan tak mujhe pata hai wo pahar ek island par majood hai or wo island Bermuda Triangle k ander hai. Or bermuda Triangle Us and Mexico ki side par hai or Mayan Civilization bhi Mexico ki taraf howa karte thay.

Source is wikipedia.
-------------------------

ek or baat yeh hai k Sheetan(iblees) ka throne (badshahi takht) samander k upper hai.. or akser scholars yeh baat kehte hain k wo throne Bermuda Triangle k ander majood hai... is baat ka prove yeh hai k akser ayse waqaiyaat peesh aye hain bermuda triangle par jo k scientifically ya technically possible nahi thay... let me tell you few

* The USS Cyclops captained by the eccentric Lieutenant Commander George W. Worley who frequented the bridge of the ship wearing a long underwear and bowler hat left Barbados on March 4, 1918 to Baltimore. On March 13 when the ship was long overdue, a massive search ensued but no trace of the largest ship in the Navy or the 300 people on board were ever found.
*In late November and early December 1941, two of the USS Cyclop’s sister ships, Proteus and Nereus both vanished on separate runs from the Virgin Islands to the USA.
*On January 30, 1948 the aircraft Star Tiger disappeared without a trace en route to Bermuda with 31 people on board moments after the pilot radioed to ground crew that they would be shortly arriving on schedule.
* Almost to the year on January 17, 1949, the Star Tiger’s sister, the Star Ariel, was about to switch from radio contact with its departure point in Bermuda to radio contact with its destination Jamaica, when it vanished. The pilot had reported perfect weather.
*On December 28, 1948, a DC-3 carrying 35 people from Puerto Rico also disappeared shortly after the pilot radioed a similar message that it was just 80km south of Miami.
*Perhaps the bizarrest episode of them all was the case of the Mary Celeste found drifting in December 1872 minus her captain, his wife, child and eight crewmen. The last position recorded in the log placed her a hundred miles west of the Azores, a path that took her close to the Bermuda Triangle.
*The precursor to the Bermuda Triangle thriller is recorded in Christopher Columbus (discoverer of modern America) ship’s log vision reports that in 1492, shortly before making land in the West Indies, that he and his crew had observed "a large ball of fire fall into the sea and that the ships compass was behaving erratically and on October 11, on the eve of the historic landfall, Columbus and another man saw a light over the water which vanished abruptly."
(( google each incident for reference ))

Or sheetan ka samander par throne hone ka reference yeh hai:
Jabir (Radi Allah Anhu) reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The throne of Iblis is upon the ocean and he sends detachments (to different parts) inorder to put people to trial and the most important figure in his eyes is one who is most notorious in sowing the seed of dissension.[Sahih Muslim: Book 039 'Kitab Sifat Al-Qiyamah wa'l Janna wa'n-Nar', Number 6754]


Or jo @Nelly nay kaha k 3 din tak raat rahe gi yeh baat aj kaal may har kissi say sun raha hon... after exam I will do my research on that.. or is par jo mujhe info hai yeh k 2012 December may ek din ayse ane wala hai jis may tamam planet and moons soraj k sath aligned kareingay.... matlab soraj say lay kar last planet tak sab planet ek hi seedh may ageingay... jis ki wajah say earth ko soraj ki roshni deer may mile gi...
or jo baat Nelly nay kahi k lambi raat hogi or us k baad tabhai start ho gi to I would like get some reference on that please...

And I cant wait for the part 2 for this thread... Thanks for all the information !!

Regards,
Your post really has confirmation brother
bilkul hum se pehle aise aqwaam the jinke qadam
hum se bhi zyada zameen mein jame huwe the
unke paas hum se zyada ilm tha iska zikr hai humaare
QURAN E KAREEM mein lekin un per azaab ilm ki wajah se nahin
jihalat ki wajah se aaya shirk o kufr ki wajah se aaya
as you said ke hazam hone wali baat nahin ke hadrat Jibra'el alaehe salam
ke tehet eik qoum ko ALLAH ne azaab mein daal diya unke ilm ke badolat NAUZBILLAH

aur JAZAKALLAH khair for beautifull sharing .
 

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Your post really has confirmation brother
bilkul hum se pehle aise aqwaam the jinke qadam
hum se bhi zyada zameen mein jame huwe the
unke paas hum se zyada ilm tha iska zikr hai humaare
QURAN E KAREEM mein lekin un per azaab ilm ki wajah se nahin
jihalat ki wajah se aaya shirk o kufr ki wajah se aaya
as you said ke hazam hone wali baat nahin ke hadrat Jibra'el alaehe salam
ke tehet eik qoum ko ALLAH ne azaab mein daal diya unke ilm ke badolat NAUZBILLAH

aur JAZAKALLAH khair for beautifull sharing .
yes but problem is, we DO NOT know for sure. hum sirf shak ki bunyad par to yakeen nai kar sakte kissi bat par.. Allah can do whatever he want no know can question it. but fortunately, Allah is the most merciful and reasonable. Alhamdulilah. And yea maybe wo log apna ilm ghalat kamo may use kar rahe hon.. WE JUST DON'T KNOW !! unless koi verse ya hadith support kare in baton ko...
 

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@ Nelly ChoCo hoorain kool~nomi S_ChiragH
I am still fails to give the accurate Reference ..
Sorry yar, mai dopher sy hi is mai laga hoa hon but can't find reference on net ,
Ager mujhy thora sa tym dy sakty ho to or dy do .
Otherwise do whatever u want :) del karna hai kar do del :)
but Zara ya socho k why i am lying wid u ?
ANd amm sorry for my bad behaviour MR Nomi....
Sorry :)
Dear @InnoXious bro mene ALHAMDULILLAH qissasul ANBIYA alaehe salam mukammal suna hai
usme jitne ANBIYA alaehe salam aur unke aqwaam ka QURAN O AHADEETH mein zikr aaya hai
un tamaam ke tamaam ka tazkira hai HADRAT ADAM alaehe salam se le kar HADRAT EESA alaehe salam tak
kisi qoum ko jihalat kisi ko na insaafi kisi ko shirk kisi ko ANBIYA alaehe salam ke na haq qatal
kisi ko kufr ke sabab kisi ko naap toul mein kami aur kisi qoum ko mojiza e RASOOL alaehe salam ki
tauheen per azaab mein mubtila hona para lekin ye nuqta jo aap bayaan kar rahe ho is qoum ka mene
bhi ab tak kahin ahadeeth mein naa suna na parha baaqi buzargon se doston se aur aap jese musalmaan bhaion
se bohot suna is mutaliq mein aapke is baat ko hargiz nahin jhutlata ke Mayan civilization nahin tha ya pichli qoum
wale hum se zyaada ilm wale nahin the ya ye ke un per azaab nahin aaya balke mera ikhtilaaf do nuqton per hai

1..Unka ilm itna tha ke Jibra'el a.s ka pata bata diya

2..Un per azaab unke ilm ki wajah se aaya(NAUZBILLAH)[DOUBLEPOST=1355210753][/DOUBLEPOST]
yes but problem is, we DO NOT know for sure. hum sirf shak ki bunyad par to yakeen nai kar sakte kissi bat par.. Allah can do whatever he want no know can question it. but fortunately, Allah is the most merciful and reasonable. Alhamdulilah. And yea maybe wo log apna ilm ghalat kamo may use kar rahe hon.. WE JUST DON'T KNOW !! unless koi verse ya hadith support kare in baton ko...
Ji bhai bilkul sahi itne loug keh rahe hain to ho sakta hai
lekin jab tak yeh baat ke unko ilm ke wajeh se
ya ilm ke ghalat istimal ke wajeh se azaab diya gaya ye ahadeeth se saabit nahin hota
hum hargiz is waaqea ko tasleem nahin kar sakte same point of view here bro .
 
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@ Nelly ChoCo hoorain kool~nomi S_ChiragH

I am still fails to give the accurate Reference ..
Sorry yar, mai dopher sy hi is mai laga hoa hon but can't find reference on net ,
Ager mujhy thora sa tym dy sakty ho to or dy do .
Otherwise do whatever u want :) del karna hai kar do del :)
but Zara ya socho k why i am lying wid u ?
ANd amm sorry for my bad behaviour MR Nomi....
Sorry :)

@ topic ...

mujhy kuch cheezain mili hai jis ka reference mai Qasas Al Ambia mai search kar raha hon ..
Ya baat mainy bht jaga dhekhi hai ...
Seee >>> as i heard>>> One time Jibrail :as: was commanded to go and destroy a city...Hazrat Jibrail :as: being the leader of angels, had enough authority to ask Allah :swt:, that Oh Allah, why do you destroy this nation which has achieved so much? So Allah :swt: replies, for that, you'll have to go and see for yourself how far they have advanced...

So Jibrail :as: disguised himself as a man and walked to the outskirts of the city he was to destroy and came upon a few children playing ina a field...he approached them and inquired from one of the children, where is Jibrail? The child drew some calculations in the sand with a stick and anwsered, he is one of us, and since it's not me, it must be you...So Jibrail :as: destroyed the city...(The name of the city is not given)...

ya mai nay net bht logon ko dhekha hai post kary hoee .. but me reference k sath search karing ...

link > http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/137002-atlantis.html[DOUBLEPOST=1355180752][/DOUBLEPOST]
xzy IN http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=27613 also said like i told .....
He said I was watching a documentary on the history channel on the Mayan civilization. It is understood that the mayan civilization had decoded many a concepts which are beyond the realm of modern man. It is believed that those guys, back in the day could foretell amongst many things, their death, the destruction of their civilization and when dooms day would strike. Now the big question is, what does Islam say about this.
There is a story, I dont know if its from the Islamic traditions or from the Quran, but it goes something like this. God told Gabriel to go down and destroy a nation because they knew too much. So Gabriel descended down and came across 3 young boys playing by the sea. He approached the kids in an image of a man and asked them one by one , do you know where the angel Gabriel is right now ?
The first boy replied: based on my calculation, Gabriel is not in Heaven right now.
The second boy replied : based on my calculation, Gabriel is on this earth right now.
The third boy replied: based on my calculation, Gabriel is either you or me.
Long story short the whole civilization of destroyed. It is said that these people could predict future based on the merits of star gazing and reading palms. Its little wonder that Islam today forbids us from involving ourselves from fortune telling. Lesson to be learnt is , that a flourishing nation was destroyed based on their prowess of predicting future. Sadly today the soothsayer business is as lucrative as ever. Even when Islam condemns fortune telling as shirk,an unforgivable sin. Yet many amongst us choose to think otherwise.
My question to all of you is that ...
k
kuch na kuch asa to hai na jo mery jaisy or bhi log ny asa sunna hai .. :/
its ok Dear Hota hai kabhi kabhi aisa bhi :) ...

Hum Yeh Nhn Bol rahay kay aap jhoot bol rahay hum yeh keh rahay hain jis ne likha hai us ne galat likha , theek hai aisii koum hogi per Hazrat Jebrail A.S Nay Bachay Se Baat Ki Aur un say pucha Etc yeh galat hai Agar refference hoga proper toh theek hoga , Allah ka Azaab Toh Boht Saari Koumon Per Aya yeh bhi in mien se aik hogi kahin pe hoga yeh waqiya , per aisii baat bht hasaas hoti hai dear Farishte kay baray mien ya kuch aisa toh please accurate and Mustand aur sahi refference kay sath post kiya karain ... Ab aap yeh post karna refference kay sath but proper sahi refference kay sath post karna .. JazakaAllah Mujhay bhi maaf karna agar kuch bura laga ho Toh And Please Logo se Suni Huwi Baat Ya internet per Bagair tasdeek kay Us per yakeen na karain Internet agar humien faida bhi de raha hai toh bht nuksan bhi de raha hai Aur nauzbillah Quran Muslaman Dushmano Nay galat post kar rakhain hain net per So Ab Hum Yakeen nhn kartay jab tak usay kisi kitab wagera mien na dekhlien ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355221478][/DOUBLEPOST]ok this is interesting..
Let me share what I know...
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yeh baat to mujhe bhi hazam nahi ho rahi k ek Qoom ko destry kia gaya sirf or sirf zada ilm hone ki based par.. but yeh baat hum ko is lie ajeb lag rai hai kiun k humare pass full information nahi hai..
Rahi baat Jabrail A.S k waqaiya k to I cannot confirm that...
but mujhe itna zaroor yaad hai k ek aysi qoom thi jo apna dimagh hum say zada use karte thay or un k pass ilm tha or na sirf ilm tha bal k un k pass jadu tha jo k Sheetan nay un ko sekhaya tha. or isi terhan dunaya may Jadu introduce howa tha... and I believe wo log us knowledge ki madad say nature may conflict peda karte thay ya accurately predict kar lia karte thay... and right now only Allah knows why exactly they were been destroyed.

now, rahi baat Dajjal ki to upper kaha gaya hai k Plant gawahi de ga.. can you tell me the name of the plant jo nahi gawahi de ga.. ?

Also, kisi nay kaha k Dajjah jis pahar may qaed hai wo Israel may hai ya phir Iran ki taraf.. jahan tak mujhe pata hai wo pahar ek island par majood hai or wo island Bermuda Triangle k ander hai. Or bermuda Triangle Us and Mexico ki side par hai or Mayan Civilization bhi Mexico ki taraf howa karte thay.

Source is wikipedia.
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ek or baat yeh hai k Sheetan(iblees) ka throne (badshahi takht) samander k upper hai.. or akser scholars yeh baat kehte hain k wo throne Bermuda Triangle k ander majood hai... is baat ka prove yeh hai k akser ayse waqaiyaat peesh aye hain bermuda triangle par jo k scientifically ya technically possible nahi thay... let me tell you few

* The USS Cyclops captained by the eccentric Lieutenant Commander George W. Worley who frequented the bridge of the ship wearing a long underwear and bowler hat left Barbados on March 4, 1918 to Baltimore. On March 13 when the ship was long overdue, a massive search ensued but no trace of the largest ship in the Navy or the 300 people on board were ever found.
*In late November and early December 1941, two of the USS Cyclop’s sister ships, Proteus and Nereus both vanished on separate runs from the Virgin Islands to the USA.
*On January 30, 1948 the aircraft Star Tiger disappeared without a trace en route to Bermuda with 31 people on board moments after the pilot radioed to ground crew that they would be shortly arriving on schedule.
* Almost to the year on January 17, 1949, the Star Tiger’s sister, the Star Ariel, was about to switch from radio contact with its departure point in Bermuda to radio contact with its destination Jamaica, when it vanished. The pilot had reported perfect weather.
*On December 28, 1948, a DC-3 carrying 35 people from Puerto Rico also disappeared shortly after the pilot radioed a similar message that it was just 80km south of Miami.
*Perhaps the bizarrest episode of them all was the case of the Mary Celeste found drifting in December 1872 minus her captain, his wife, child and eight crewmen. The last position recorded in the log placed her a hundred miles west of the Azores, a path that took her close to the Bermuda Triangle.
*The precursor to the Bermuda Triangle thriller is recorded in Christopher Columbus (discoverer of modern America) ship’s log vision reports that in 1492, shortly before making land in the West Indies, that he and his crew had observed "a large ball of fire fall into the sea and that the ships compass was behaving erratically and on October 11, on the eve of the historic landfall, Columbus and another man saw a light over the water which vanished abruptly."
(( google each incident for reference ))

Or sheetan ka samander par throne hone ka reference yeh hai:
Jabir (Radi Allah Anhu) reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The throne of Iblis is upon the ocean and he sends detachments (to different parts) inorder to put people to trial and the most important figure in his eyes is one who is most notorious in sowing the seed of dissension.[Sahih Muslim: Book 039 'Kitab Sifat Al-Qiyamah wa'l Janna wa'n-Nar', Number 6754]


Or jo @Nelly nay kaha k 3 din tak raat rahe gi yeh baat aj kaal may har kissi say sun raha hon... after exam I will do my research on that.. or is par jo mujhe info hai yeh k 2012 December may ek din ayse ane wala hai jis may tamam planet and moons soraj k sath aligned kareingay.... matlab soraj say lay kar last planet tak sab planet ek hi seedh may ageingay... jis ki wajah say earth ko soraj ki roshni deer may mile gi...
or jo baat Nelly nay kahi k lambi raat hogi or us k baad tabhai start ho gi to I would like get some reference on that please...

And I cant wait for the part 2 for this thread... Thanks for all the information !!

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Use Full Sharing .. Bro Mien inshaAllah Qayamat Aur Dajjal Pe Thread lagaonga with full of refferences .. InshaAllah Jald hi ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355221680][/DOUBLEPOST]
yes but problem is, we DO NOT know for sure. hum sirf shak ki bunyad par to yakeen nai kar sakte kissi bat par.. Allah can do whatever he want no know can question it. but fortunately, Allah is the most merciful and reasonable. Alhamdulilah. And yea maybe wo log apna ilm ghalat kamo may use kar rahe hon.. WE JUST DON'T KNOW !! unless koi verse ya hadith support kare in baton ko...
Han Bro is liye is qisay ko disscuss karna sahi nhn hai ke kiun ke is kay Proper reffrencces hi nhn hain Kahin bhi ... Aur hum apnay tour pe andazay nhn laga saktay kay aisa huwa hoga ya waisa huwa hoga ... JazakaAllah for Your use full posts ...[DOUBLEPOST=1355221906][/DOUBLEPOST]
yes @Nelly was disturbed and i witnessed it myself. Per i told her k Itna socha na kro Jaldi boorhi ho jao ge :p Lolz Jokes apart. Koi b yh nahi janta k Qayamat kb Ani Siwaye ALLAH k. But yes we should be prepared for it. And One more thing that i will like to add is that Reference k sath b sharing ko hamein check zaroor kr lena chahiyay ya koi aik member check lazmi kr le k aya aisa he hai and he can tell all others k aisa he hai i have checked it. Because hm logon ki thinking aisi hai k bs agar hamein reference mil jae tau hm yaqeen kr letey hain without even checking. So @kool~nomi and @S_ChiragH bro se request kroon ga k woh tasdeeq kr dia krein jitnon ki woh kr skein. I will try to do the same. And zaroori nahi k Yh dono he krein. Everyone should do that.




@InnoXious its alright! Ap ko jitna time chahiyay ap le lo. Yahan koi race tau nahi lgi hui. Ap achay se detail research kr lo k kia baat hai. Because me ne b kafi logon se yh baat suni hai jis ka ap tazkara kr rhay. Per aj tk koi mustanad reference nahi mila.




Yes don these all incidents cannot be explained yet. Some scientists claim that there is a black hole that connects one universe to other. Others are spellbound on the phenomenon. Nice Sharing of information. Muje yh Ibless k throne wali baat nahi pta thi. I will read more about it.


In the End I would like to request k All Muslims are brothers so lets not get angry with eachother. We can have a healthy discussion over here so lets not spoil it. Jaisa k Me ne suna hai k *ilm Momin ki miraas hai ussay jahan se milay hasil kr lo* so lets keep on conveying apt and true information and guide everyone to the righteous path. MAY ALLAH forgive our sins and guide us to the righteous Path Ameen :)

@kool~nomi chalo @InnoXious nu jhappi pao :D :D shabash :D :D
hm Cchoco InshaAllah hum Apni poori koshish karien gay sahi tasdeeq karnay ki .. sahi bol rahay ho sirf refferences mil ne per yakeen nhn karna chaye jab tak khud apni ankhon se un refferences ko dekh na lain .. kiun kal hi ki baat hai mien aik book mien se posting kar raha tha toh mujhay kucch quranic ayat mili phr mene un quranic aya ko Quran mien check kiya tarjama unka toh jo book mien ayat number 2 likhi huwi thi aur Quran mien 2 number ayat ka tarjma dusra tha toh mene search kiya toh book ki mistake thi ayat number 17 ki jaga ayat number do agaya tha ... So mene shukar kiya Allah kay Shukar mene tasdeeq ki ..
 
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Us kom ka name Unaan the jispe ilm me bht aage barhne ki waja se azaab aya tha. Aur ye waqia to kafi jaga se suna hai
Bhai jan kahe sune pe MAZHAB E ISLAM nahin chalta
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