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مسلم[DOUBLEPOST=1343394806][/DOUBLEPOST]~Unknown~
Sabah
Mazaaq mein yah Ghusse mein Gali dene se..!
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S_ChiragH
مسلم[DOUBLEPOST=1343394806][/DOUBLEPOST]~Unknown~
Sabah
yeh sab darnay kay liey hai... Gali dena buri baat hai koi bhi civilized insan nahi day ga.. Koi bhi educated shaks nahi day ga.. Lekan Insan ko Darana kay uss ki qabar main bicho banay gay... meray khiyal main yeh bhi droosat nahi hai.. Jo log khudkush hamlo mian maray jatay hain..Ya jo japani atom bomb kay girnay se maraay.. Ya jin ko qabar naseeb nahi hoti... Un ko yeh bicho kesay katay ga... agar unno ne gali di hoi.... Yeh Baat sirf yeh bata rahi hia .. kay qabar main hona zaroori hai... Jo logon ko aag mian jilatay hain...jin ki rakh ganga main beh jati hai un ko yeh bicho kesay katay ga... Aur meray khiyal main Hazarat Ali jaisay azeem hasti esi baat nahi kar sakti.. Jis main itni contradiction ho
Hmmmm You are right, aur pir Allah ne ager itne sazae likhe hue pir kessi na kessi tareekay se kessi naiki ka ajer aur sawab bhi tu likha hai aur banaya hain pir uska azala tu hua jata hain us neiki k wajah se, mai yeh tu nai kahungi k jho share hue hain voh durust hain ya nai but haa her baat ka reference huna chahye, ta k kessi k mind mei koi shuk nai aye whether the statement is authentic or not.
aik baat ap muje yeh bata sakhti hain.. Allah ne yeh bicho aur sanpoo wali sazain kyun likhi hain.. kia Allah kay paas koi aur cheez nahi saza denay kay liey.. aur meray khiyaal main Allah kabi apni makhlooq ko esi saza nahi day ga.. Agar waqie Allah ne Humain paida kia hai.. Agar ap ko koi dhoomir (bhir) kat le.. tau ap ko kitna dard ho ga.. aur bicho tau bohat buri cheez hai... Allah ko apni makhlooq ko intna sakhat azab day kar kia milay ga..Shukira.. Meray khiyaal main yeh sirf logo ko Daar kay naam pe control karnay kay liey yeh sab kuch banaya gaya hai.. Lekan woh bhi theek nahi.. kay logon kay ander Khof Paida kar kay achay kaam karay jaye..
kuch khuda ka khouf kero ku tarah nikaal rahi ho[DOUBLEPOST=1343394655][/DOUBLEPOST]Wasif Safi
S_ChiragH
مسلم[DOUBLEPOST=1343394806][/DOUBLEPOST]~Unknown~
Sabah
Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:
Some Sabi (i.e. war prisoners, children and woman only) were brought before the Prophet and behold, a woman amongst them was milking her breasts to feed and whenever she found a child amongst the captives, she took it over her chest and nursed it (she had lost her child but later she found him) the Prophet said to us, "Do you think that this lady can throw her son in the fire?" We replied, "No, if she has the power not to throw it (in the fire)." The Prophet then said, "Allah is more merciful to His slaves than this lady to her son."
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 28
Allah wants us to seek forgiveness and come towards Him. Hadith says that the Messenger of Allah was traveling and stopped on the way at a village. A woman was cooking at a fire nearby and he noticed that she constantly had to push her child back who would come forward. She said to the Prophet, “I work with this fire all day, my son wants to play with it but I have to push him back all the time because I’m frightened for him. If Allah loves us more than we love our children, how can He put us in Hell?”
Hearing this the Messenger of Allah sat with his head bowed and his eyes filled with tears. He cried for some time and then said, “Allah does not want to send His creation into Hell, but it is man himself who buys Hell for himself through his disobedience to Allah. He forgets where he has come from and who his Caretaker is. He does not seek forgiveness from his Creator.”
so Allah ne hume apnay raah mei bolane k lie Quran aur Sunna of the prophet diya hain, hell fire aur yeh sazae jho akhirat ki hain which includes azaab azeem yeh humare khud k amal aur chunay hue raste ka hain.
Allah says in the quran:
"O those of My servants who have transgressed against your own selves, despair not of Allah(SWT)'s's mercy. Allah(SWT) does forgive all sins, for surely He(SWT) is the most forgiving most merciful one." (39:53)
The horror
Some Sabi (i.e. war prisoners, children and woman only) were brought before the Prophet and behold, a woman amongst them was milking her breasts to feed and whenever she found a child amongst the captives, she took it over her chest and nursed it (she had lost her child but later she found him) the Prophet said to us, "Do you think that this lady can throw her son in the fire?" We replied, "No, if she has the power not to throw it (in the fire)." The Prophet then said, "Allah is more merciful to His slaves than this lady to her son."
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 28
Allah wants us to seek forgiveness and come towards Him. Hadith says that the Messenger of Allah was traveling and stopped on the way at a village. A woman was cooking at a fire nearby and he noticed that she constantly had to push her child back who would come forward. She said to the Prophet, “I work with this fire all day, my son wants to play with it but I have to push him back all the time because I’m frightened for him. If Allah loves us more than we love our children, how can He put us in Hell?”
Hearing this the Messenger of Allah sat with his head bowed and his eyes filled with tears. He cried for some time and then said, “Allah does not want to send His creation into Hell, but it is man himself who buys Hell for himself through his disobedience to Allah. He forgets where he has come from and who his Caretaker is. He does not seek forgiveness from his Creator.”
so Allah ne hume apnay raah mei bolane k lie Quran aur Sunna of the prophet diya hain, hell fire aur yeh sazae jho akhirat ki hain which includes azaab azeem yeh humare khud k amal aur chunay hue raste ka hain.
Allah says in the quran:
"O those of My servants who have transgressed against your own selves, despair not of Allah(SWT)'s's mercy. Allah(SWT) does forgive all sins, for surely He(SWT) is the most forgiving most merciful one." (39:53)
The horror
Disobedience to Allah, Please tell me, If a child disobeys his parents, would his parent want him to burn in fire. The answer is no, These are human qualities which you're associating with Allah, the most kind, and the most merciful. Why does Allah take revenge if creation disobey him. If that is case then he shouldn't create them at the first hand. Every nation has created god, Jews have different god, Christians have different and Muslims have different. Each god loves his nation and hates the others. If you see today Christianity is no first religion on earth and that is disobedient in term of Islam.. Why would Allah burn people billion of christian only for not believing in. Is that justice?
Horror there are various paths of misguidence and there is only one Straight path of Allah,
Allah never takes revenge from his servants, that's a fact but it's our own choices and deeds which'll preserve us either to hellfire or paradise, you said "the most kind, and the most merciful. Why does Allah take revenge if creation disobey him"
Alhamdulilah Allah never takes revenge from his servants and his followers as he said in the Quran:
“Whatever of good befalls you, it is from Allah; and whatever of ill befalls you, it is from yourself.” [Sûrah al-Nisâ: 79]
Allah does never push us to hellfire neither the above comment of mine meant to illustrate that, but actually he has given us many chances and ways to repent to him to turn to him but it's we who mostly do what make us think is good for us, which doesn't work fine actually as it's mentioned in the Holy Quran
"and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is bad for you, and Allah knows while you know not. Surah Al Baqarah (2:216)"
likewise when our parents can not stop us when we've intend to do something of our own choice whether it benefit or harm us the same Allah has given the capacity of fulfilling our desires and choices,
now it depends on us, what we choose and what desire is Allah's wish too or it's just to statisfy our devil our nafs.
Allah never takes revenge from his servants, that's a fact but it's our own choices and deeds which'll preserve us either to hellfire or paradise, you said "the most kind, and the most merciful. Why does Allah take revenge if creation disobey him"
Alhamdulilah Allah never takes revenge from his servants and his followers as he said in the Quran:
“Whatever of good befalls you, it is from Allah; and whatever of ill befalls you, it is from yourself.” [Sûrah al-Nisâ: 79]
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اچھائی الله کی طرف سے اور برائی انسان کی طرف سے یہ کچھ بات سمج نہیں آیی.. اچھا فرض کرو ایک شکس الله کے ساتھ کسی کو شریک بناتا ہے . تو پھر الله کو یہ بات بری کیوں لگتی ہے .. یہ تو انسانی خاصیت ہے .. پھر الله ان لوگوں کو عذاب دے اور جہنم میں ڈالے گے . کیا یہ بدلہ نہیں ہے تو اور کیا . فرض کرو میں اپ سے کہتا ہوں کے میرا نام سہی طریقے سے لو اور اپ نہیں لیتی .. اور مجے غصّہ اتا ہے کے اس نے نافرمانی کی ہے اور میں اپ کو سزا دیتا ہوں. یہ بھی سارا وہی چکر نہیں . مادر ٹریسا کا اپ نے سنا ہو گا. ان نے کتنی انسانون کی خدمات کی . ہر وقت لوگوں کو خوش رکھا . کیا الله اس کو اس وجہ سے سزا دے گا کے اس نے الله پی یقین نہیں کیا . اور ایک مسلمان کو اس وجہ سے جنّت دے گا کے اس نے الله کا یقین کیا . یہ کچھ بات سمج نہیں ا رہی
اچھائی الله کی طرف سے اور برائی انسان کی طرف سے یہ کچھ بات سمج نہیں آیی.. اچھا فرض کرو ایک شکس الله کے ساتھ کسی کو شریک بناتا ہے . تو پھر الله کو یہ بات بری کیوں لگتی ہے .. یہ تو انسانی خاصیت ہے .. پھر الله ان لوگوں کو عذاب دے اور جہنم میں ڈالے گے . کیا یہ بدلہ نہیں ہے تو اور کیا . فرض کرو میں اپ سے کہتا ہوں کے میرا نام سہی طریقے سے لو اور اپ نہیں لیتی .. اور مجے غصّہ اتا ہے کے اس نے نافرمانی کی ہے اور میں اپ کو سزا دیتا ہوں. یہ بھی سارا وہی چکر نہیں . مادر ٹریسا کا اپ نے سنا ہو گا. ان نے کتنی انسانون کی خدمات کی . ہر وقت لوگوں کو خوش رکھا . کیا وہ الله اس کو اس وجہ سے سزا دے گا کے اس نے الله پی یقین نہیں کیا . اور ایک مسلمان کو اس وجہ سے جنّت دے گا کے اس نے الله کا یقین کیا . یہ کچھ بات سمج نہیں ا رہی[/quote]
kya bachon wale sawal karte rehte ho yr tum madar tarisa ne agar insano ki khidmaat ki hain to woh insaano ki muhabbat main ki na to uska ajar bhi insaan hi de sakte hain jaise ke ap jese insaan unko khidmaat ka aitraaf kar ke de rhe hain Allah kyun de? kya usne woh khidmaat Allah ke dar se ya Allah ki muhabbat main ki? Allah har insaan ko uske ache amaalon ka ajar deta hai so madar tarisa ke ache amaalon ka ajar bhi ap jese hazaaron logon ko madar tarisa ko pasand krne ki surat main de dya lekin according to islaam Allah per imaan na lana kufr hoa or kufr ki saza dene wala b Allah hi hai lekin is baat per bhi sirf wohi log hi yaqin rakhte hain jo Allah per emaan rakhte hain so i think apki baaten just un logon ki tarha hi hoti hain jo Allah per imaan nhi rakhte or i think aisi baaton se koi muslim hargiz b mutasir nhi ho sakta or woh sirf islye ke islaam ek mukammal deen hai jis main kafiron ke har aitraaz ka tasalli baksh javab mojod hai
الله میں یہ انسانی خاصیت کیوں ہے .. کے صرف ان لوگوں کو اجر دیتا ہے جو اس پہ یقین کرتے ہیں .. مثال کے طور پر ایک مسلمان اس نے کلمہ پڑا ہے .. اور وہ جنّت میں جائے ہر صورت میں چاے اپنے گناہوں کی سزا بگت کر .. اور اس کے برعکس وہ لوگ جننون نے دنیا کو فائدہ دیا ..جن کی بدولت آج اپ انٹرنیٹ پہ اسلام کا پیغام دنیا میں پونچھاتے ہو .. جن کی وجہ سے اپ سارا دن نیٹ پہ باتیں کرتے ہو .. وہ جہنم میں جائیں کے .. صرف اننوں نے اپ کے خدا پہ یقین نہیں کیا .. فہد میں اپ کی بات میں کچھ وزن نہیں ہے
میں بھی یہی بات کرتا ہوں .. کے الله اپنی مخلوق میں اتنا سلیکٹو کیوں ہیں .. یعنی اس کو صرف وہی لوگ پسند ہیں جو اس پہ یقین کریں .. باقی مخلوق الله کو پسند نہیں .. کیوں کے وہ کافر ہیں
ek or bache wala sawal
Allah bohot raheem o kareem hai lekin rehem krne wale insaan b hote hain Allah malikul quddso hai to dunya main insaan b kaafi cheezon ki malkiyat rakhte hain Allah jabbar o qahaar hai to dunya main insan b ghussa or qeher daal rhe hote hain to mere bhaiya Allah main insan wali khasiyat nhi balke insaano ko Allah ne apni siffat se nawaza hota hai tum jitni koshish krlo bachkana sawal kar ke khud ko azeem insan banane ki aam insano ki nazr main yeh sirf bachkana soch hi sabit horhi hain or dusri baat main yeh kahunga ke aap apne abbu per yaqin nhi krte ke woh apke abbu hain to phir ap apne abbu se yeh ummed kaise laga sakte hain ke woh apni jaidaad main se apko koi share krenge? ap apni maa per yaqin nhi krte ke woh apki maa hai to phir aap apni maa se kaise woh muhabbat hasil kr lenge jo ek maa apne bache se karti hai? come on yr koi thoss wajah koi impressive thinking show karo kya aam insano wali baaten kr ke mujhe impress krne ki koshish kr rhe ho?
اچھا میں اپنا ابّو کو کہتا ہوں.. اے ابے جا میں نہیں تجے مانتا ، تو کیا ابا مجے آگ میں جلانے گا .. اپ کے پاس مرے سوالوں کا جواب نہیں ہے . اپ اپنی باتوں میں اپنے اپ کو جواب دے رہے ہو. یا میرا باپ زیادہ سے زیادہ یہ کرے گا .. کے وارثت سے مجے نکال دے .. مجے کبی بھی تکلیف میں نہیں ڈالے گا .. اس کے برعکس الله جو ٧٠ ماؤں سے زیادہ پیار کرتا ہے اس کو اپنی مخلوق کو اتنا درد ناک عذاب دے کے کیا ملے گا ... جب جواب ملے تو جگا دینا ہوا میں فرنگ نہ کرنا
dekha maine pehle hi kaha tha apko abi ilm hi nhi abi aap bachkhana zehen ke malik ho isilye bachon wali baaten hi krte rehte ho cz simple si baat hai yar ap apne abbu ko yeh kehte hain to beshak woh apko aag main nhi jala sakta kyunke woh itni taqat hi nhi rakhta usko pta hai ke main apne bete ko aag main jalane ki koshish karunga to mera beta khud b mujhe ussi aag main jala sakta hai
lekin Allah taqat rakhta hai mere dost Allah har cheez per qadir hai woh na sirf aag main jala sakta balke jalti hoi aag ko bujha bhi sakta hai suraj ko mashriq se nikaal ker maghrib main ghurob kr sakta hai to ussi suraj ko maghrib se tulo kar ke mashriq main ghurob b kr sakta hai tumhe dunya main paida kar sakta hai to tumhe maarne ke bad dobara tumhe zinda bhi kar sakta hai lekin yeh sab apke abbu nhi kar sakte yaqin nhi to poch b li jiye ga apne abbu se...
the horror,bhut ghalat soch hia aap ki aisa nai hota hai......
tell me one thing agr aap koi cheez bnaty han to aap ko kitni khushi hoti ho gi hai na??
automatically he insan ko apni bnai hui cheez se muhabbat ho jati hai possessive ho jata hai insan us k peechy.....bilkul aise he ALLAH PAK apni bnai hui eik eik cheez se muhabbat krta hai
apni bnai hui makhlooq se b phr chahy wo kafir hon ya musalman
ALLAH PAK to apny bandy se 70 maon se zia da pyar krta hai...mAA ka pyar kai hota hai ye to janty he hon gay na aap......aur is baat ka faisla aap nai ly sakty k kon jannat ma jaye ga aur kon dozakh ma...... q k ye Raaz srf ussi ki zaat janti hai
woww well said wese ek baat hai yr itne ache tarike se samjhana mujhe pta nhi kyun kabi aya hi nhi but realy apne kaafi impressive baaten ki jo dil ko b lagithe horror,bhut ghalat soch hia aap ki aisa nai hota hai......
tell me one thing agr aap koi cheez bnaty han to aap ko kitni khushi hoti ho gi hai na??
automatically he insan ko apni bnai hui cheez se muhabbat ho jati hai possessive ho jata hai insan us k peechy.....bilkul aise he ALLAH PAK apni bnai hui eik eik cheez se muhabbat krta hai
apni bnai hui makhlooq se b phr chahy wo kafir hon ya musalman
ALLAH PAK to apny bandy se 70 maon se zia da pyar krta hai...mAA ka pyar kai hota hai ye to janty he hon gay na aap......aur is baat ka faisla aap nai ly sakty k kon jannat ma jaye ga aur kon dozakh ma...... q k ye Raaz srf ussi ki zaat janti hai