Thursday, September 16, 2004 Posted: 0637 GMT (1437 HKT)
Airdate: September 11th 2004
LH: Lorraine Hahn
SRK: Shah Rukh Khan
BLOCK A
LH: This week on TalkAsia: The King of Bollywood.
Welcome to TalkAsia. I'm Lorraine Hahn. The one and only - Shah Rukh Khan is our guest this week.
Bollywood is all about the singing and the dancing. And no one does it better, than Shah Rukh Khan. He made his silver screen debut in the late 80's but soon Bollywood beckoned. Since then, he's churned out hit after hit, including the critically acclaimed movie "Devdas" with Aishwariya Rai in 2002. But his most iconic moment thus far has got to be his performance of "Chaiya Chaiya" in 1998. The song, performed on a moving train, is like the "Macarena" for India. And I witnessed myself while there how everyone, from a three year old, to a grandmother-can't help but start dancing when they hear the catchy, hypnotic tune. After more than 50 films and numerous accolades, the 38-year old actor still reigns supreme as Bollywood's most charismatic and bankable star.
I caught up with Shah Rukh during my recent trip to India. Although normally quite private, he kindly allowed us to film the interview at his beautiful home in Mumbai. I began by asking him, what makes him so popular?
SRK - I don't know myself. Most of my friends even now laugh at me that I have become a film star. Especially the actresses that have worked with me earlier on, their reaction to me when I first gave my show to them was "eeks" -- they find it surprising. They think I'm a long-running fluke.
LH: So what do you think this appeal is? Is it your renowned good looks, your talent, what is it?
SRK -- No I find it funny if anyone calls me good-looking! (LH--ah!) No I genuinely do, I get embarrassed actually. The only thing I can sort of think is I am very ordinary in my films and I think that makes it special. And that's the only thing that I could think that I could say -- this could be the reason, because there is no other reason. I work hard, like I'm sure everyone else does, and I'm very honest with the work I do. Besides that, there could be luck, God has blessed me, people have been kind, or I believe there are a 100 million Indians who are very short-sighted!
LH -- (laughs) So you are admitting that your looks are pretty mediocre then?
SRK -- They are very mediocre! They are very mediocre.
LH -- When do you think you got your first real big break?
SRK -- You know I didn't know the ways of Indian cinema. Its very familial, mostly the people who've done well, their children come and take on the mantel. Normally they've not been too many outsiders who've come and joined the Hindi film industry. I really didn't know that the first four films I was doing were very special films -- I didn't know what a commercial success meant; I didn't know what happened at a box-office; you're suppose to feel nervous on Friday if your film doesn't do well, I didn't know you're meant to do some kind of roles. There's a certain kind of behaviour -- that you're not supposed to walk around in jeans and your shirt at parties, you're supposed to be very well-mannered even if you didn't know the people, and show you really loved their seniority. I wasn't like that. I was a little more Nike, Casey Casen, Michael J. Fox, kind of guy from Delhi. So they found me a little irreverent, but I really don't know when it happened. One fine evening I was shooting right here, next to my house, in the studio, and the director looked to me and said 'You're a star'. And I was slightly taken aback and he said - my barber said to me, "would you like a haircut like Shah Rukh Khan?" Which means, in India, you're a star. So it happened I think with the first few films, they did very well, but with really no input from me. With commercial success was concerned, I wasn't really aware.
LH -- Right, now let's say from your first movie up until now, did you every imagine that you could be this successful?
SRK - Even now, when somebody asks me, are you successful? I find it strange, I'm not being modest when I say that. So I try to sound modest and I say success is like Jackie Chan or Michael Jackson. People think I'm being immodest, but perhaps it's that I don't understand what's been happened in the last 13 years, which is the truth. I've written a book now which is about to be published, and it really does the say that, how I don't know how its happened, I don't know whether I am successful. Yes I have made a lot of money and I have a lot of respect, my films have done well, and I know there are loads of loads of people who look up to me and really love me. I really just thought this is like a strange dream. I have never thought this is a success -- I don't have a standard. If I got a BMW and a big house and 11 Filmfare Awards -- or a National Awards-- that I am successful. So I just get up in the morning and do the same stuff, and I think that augurs well for me. Because I am not caught up with the peripherals as yet, I really enjoy getting up in the morning and going and shooting exactly the way I did thirteen years ago.
LH -- Shah Rukh is there say a difference between a Bollywood and a Western star? Are you taken very differently?
SRK - I think the way the audience takes the Indian film-star is a little different from the way the audience takes the Western star there. We are considered like demi-gods here, and the reason is not because we are better or good, but because there is no other mode of entertainment in India. So you need to be a little more "demi-goddy," being an Indian film star. You need to be a little more mystical, and you need to be more enigmatic. Its not just a job, at least for the audience, as a matter of fact in the recent years a few actors like me have started de-mystifying being a film star but otherwise it's a blessing from heaven that you are a film star here in India and I think people do treat you with a lot of respect, and the press still hasn't become like how it is in the West, and they don't take pictures of you in low skirts, with lots of cellulite showing! (LH -- Right!). They respect us for that and I think they realize the difference. As far as the work, ethical culture is concerned when I met some of the other stars I think it's more or less the same -- only they can't dance as well as us!
LH: Up next on TalkAsia - How did it all begin for Shah Rukh Khan. And as a Muslim-the challenges he faced when he married his Hindu wife.
Airdate: September 11th 2004
LH: Lorraine Hahn
SRK: Shah Rukh Khan
BLOCK A
LH: This week on TalkAsia: The King of Bollywood.
Welcome to TalkAsia. I'm Lorraine Hahn. The one and only - Shah Rukh Khan is our guest this week.
Bollywood is all about the singing and the dancing. And no one does it better, than Shah Rukh Khan. He made his silver screen debut in the late 80's but soon Bollywood beckoned. Since then, he's churned out hit after hit, including the critically acclaimed movie "Devdas" with Aishwariya Rai in 2002. But his most iconic moment thus far has got to be his performance of "Chaiya Chaiya" in 1998. The song, performed on a moving train, is like the "Macarena" for India. And I witnessed myself while there how everyone, from a three year old, to a grandmother-can't help but start dancing when they hear the catchy, hypnotic tune. After more than 50 films and numerous accolades, the 38-year old actor still reigns supreme as Bollywood's most charismatic and bankable star.
I caught up with Shah Rukh during my recent trip to India. Although normally quite private, he kindly allowed us to film the interview at his beautiful home in Mumbai. I began by asking him, what makes him so popular?
SRK - I don't know myself. Most of my friends even now laugh at me that I have become a film star. Especially the actresses that have worked with me earlier on, their reaction to me when I first gave my show to them was "eeks" -- they find it surprising. They think I'm a long-running fluke.
LH: So what do you think this appeal is? Is it your renowned good looks, your talent, what is it?
SRK -- No I find it funny if anyone calls me good-looking! (LH--ah!) No I genuinely do, I get embarrassed actually. The only thing I can sort of think is I am very ordinary in my films and I think that makes it special. And that's the only thing that I could think that I could say -- this could be the reason, because there is no other reason. I work hard, like I'm sure everyone else does, and I'm very honest with the work I do. Besides that, there could be luck, God has blessed me, people have been kind, or I believe there are a 100 million Indians who are very short-sighted!
LH -- (laughs) So you are admitting that your looks are pretty mediocre then?
SRK -- They are very mediocre! They are very mediocre.
LH -- When do you think you got your first real big break?
SRK -- You know I didn't know the ways of Indian cinema. Its very familial, mostly the people who've done well, their children come and take on the mantel. Normally they've not been too many outsiders who've come and joined the Hindi film industry. I really didn't know that the first four films I was doing were very special films -- I didn't know what a commercial success meant; I didn't know what happened at a box-office; you're suppose to feel nervous on Friday if your film doesn't do well, I didn't know you're meant to do some kind of roles. There's a certain kind of behaviour -- that you're not supposed to walk around in jeans and your shirt at parties, you're supposed to be very well-mannered even if you didn't know the people, and show you really loved their seniority. I wasn't like that. I was a little more Nike, Casey Casen, Michael J. Fox, kind of guy from Delhi. So they found me a little irreverent, but I really don't know when it happened. One fine evening I was shooting right here, next to my house, in the studio, and the director looked to me and said 'You're a star'. And I was slightly taken aback and he said - my barber said to me, "would you like a haircut like Shah Rukh Khan?" Which means, in India, you're a star. So it happened I think with the first few films, they did very well, but with really no input from me. With commercial success was concerned, I wasn't really aware.
LH -- Right, now let's say from your first movie up until now, did you every imagine that you could be this successful?
SRK - Even now, when somebody asks me, are you successful? I find it strange, I'm not being modest when I say that. So I try to sound modest and I say success is like Jackie Chan or Michael Jackson. People think I'm being immodest, but perhaps it's that I don't understand what's been happened in the last 13 years, which is the truth. I've written a book now which is about to be published, and it really does the say that, how I don't know how its happened, I don't know whether I am successful. Yes I have made a lot of money and I have a lot of respect, my films have done well, and I know there are loads of loads of people who look up to me and really love me. I really just thought this is like a strange dream. I have never thought this is a success -- I don't have a standard. If I got a BMW and a big house and 11 Filmfare Awards -- or a National Awards-- that I am successful. So I just get up in the morning and do the same stuff, and I think that augurs well for me. Because I am not caught up with the peripherals as yet, I really enjoy getting up in the morning and going and shooting exactly the way I did thirteen years ago.
LH -- Shah Rukh is there say a difference between a Bollywood and a Western star? Are you taken very differently?
SRK - I think the way the audience takes the Indian film-star is a little different from the way the audience takes the Western star there. We are considered like demi-gods here, and the reason is not because we are better or good, but because there is no other mode of entertainment in India. So you need to be a little more "demi-goddy," being an Indian film star. You need to be a little more mystical, and you need to be more enigmatic. Its not just a job, at least for the audience, as a matter of fact in the recent years a few actors like me have started de-mystifying being a film star but otherwise it's a blessing from heaven that you are a film star here in India and I think people do treat you with a lot of respect, and the press still hasn't become like how it is in the West, and they don't take pictures of you in low skirts, with lots of cellulite showing! (LH -- Right!). They respect us for that and I think they realize the difference. As far as the work, ethical culture is concerned when I met some of the other stars I think it's more or less the same -- only they can't dance as well as us!
LH: Up next on TalkAsia - How did it all begin for Shah Rukh Khan. And as a Muslim-the challenges he faced when he married his Hindu wife.