my question

[Deep Silence]

Asslam o Alkum...
hume aksar fw sms atey hain jin me kuch aqwal likhe hote kuch azeem hastiyon k.sath hi on ka name likha hota hai k ye fulan ka qoul hai.magr with reference nahi hota likha hoa.

aik to main ye an'na chahti hon k ye qoul agar Hazrat Ali ka hai to phir ye kis moqy pe kaha gya hai.

"humara husn-o-jamal on kapron me nahi jo hum zeb tan kerte hain.humara asal husn-o-jamal ilm-o-sharaft se hai.(Hazrat Ali R.A)."

baqi bat is k answer aney k bad

 

[saviou]

Wa Alaykum Assalam Wrwb

ye sawal pehle bhi yahan ho chuka hai wahan jo jawab hamne diye wohi yahan dohrate hain

Jaise k hadees hai Balligu Anni Walau Aya Fid Deen ek bhi ayat ek bhi cheez deen k bare me hame maloom hai to usse dusron tak pahunchana chahiye

apko jo sms aate hain ap usse padhen agar wo reference k sath hai sahi hai to usko forward karen agar referece k sath nahi to phir usse aise hi forward na karen balke maloom karen k ye sahi hai ya galat agar sahi nahi to jisne apko forward kiye unse bhi kahen k aap aise bina ref wale islamic sms kisi ko bhi forward na karen

aur jahan tak wo qaul ki baat hai jo Hazrat Ali r.a ki taraf mansoob karte hain hamare ilm me to nahi hai k wo unka ho kyun k yahan daleel nahi hai wallahu aalam

insha Allah iski tahqeeq karenge

umeed hai baat samajh me agayi hogi apke
agar baat clear nahi huyi ho to ap puch sakte ho

Allah hame deen ki sahi samajh aata farmaye Aameen

 

[intelactual]

ASLAM-O-ALAIKUM
lekin is me 1 bat ye b to he k referance dia jata he lekin us referance ki verification nai hoti. mjy 1 sms surah mulk k baray me receive hua, me ne surah mulk tarjma or tafseer k sath parha or 2 almoon se b poocha lekin unhoon ne b kaha k aisa nahi he, balke un ka kehna tha k quran me aisay alfaz me kbi bat e nai ki gai.
to mera khayal he k referance ko b chk krna chayie.

 

[Don]

wayse may nay ek baat note ki hai .. k agar ap ka imaan acha ho.. to phir jaab bhi koi baat gahlat ho ya us par sawal uth sakta ho.. to wo bbaat ap ka dil mannay say inkaar kar deta.. chache koi reference hi kiun na ho.. laykin agar bagher reference ki bhi koi baat sach ho to wo ap ka dil accept kar leta hon.. but still may yahi kahonga k valid reference check karna zaroori hai...

 

[saviou]

ASLAM-O-ALAIKUM
lekin is me 1 bat ye b to he k referance dia jata he lekin us referance ki verification nai hoti. mjy 1 sms surah mulk k baray me receive hua, me ne surah mulk tarjma or tafseer k sath parha or 2 almoon se b poocha lekin unhoon ne b kaha k aisa nahi he, balke un ka kehna tha k quran me aisay alfaz me kbi bat e nai ki gai.
to mera khayal he k referance ko b chk krna chayie.

Wa Alaykum Assalam Wrwb

bilkul janab reference ko bhi chek karlena zyada behtar hai Jazakallah khair

wayse may nay ek baat note ki hai .. k agar ap ka imaan acha ho.. to phir jaab bhi koi baat gahlat ho ya us par sawal uth sakta ho.. to wo bbaat ap ka dil mannay say inkaar kar deta.. chache koi reference hi kiun na ho.. laykin agar bagher reference ki bhi koi baat sach ho to wo ap ka dil accept kar leta hon.. but still may yahi kahonga k valid reference check karna zaroori hai...

sahi kaha janab ye insaani fitrat hai k agar koi galat baat samne aye to chahe wo bazahir kitni achi lage lekin dil mutmain nahi hota lekin ye bhi un logon k liye jo gaur karte hain warna aaj kal ye sab sochne ka gaur karne ka kis k paas waqt hai

Allah apke ilm me barkat de aur ham sab ko deen sahi maine me samajhne aur us par amal karne ki taufeeq de Aameen

 

[Deep Silence]

wayse may nay ek baat note ki hai .. k agar ap ka imaan acha ho.. to phir jaab bhi koi baat gahlat ho ya us par sawal uth sakta ho.. to wo bbaat ap ka dil mannay say inkaar kar deta.. chache koi reference hi kiun na ho.. laykin agar bagher reference ki bhi koi baat sach ho to wo ap ka dil accept kar leta hon.. but still may yahi kahonga k valid reference check karna zaroori hai...

Don bhai aap ki bat bhi ksi had tak theik hai.k humare dil ko jis bat pe itminan ho to hum ose hi sahi samjhein magar esa nahi hota.kabhi humara dil bhi ghalat ho sakta hai is lie agar aap k pas koi bhi esa sms ae jo k with reference na ho aur ho bhi to pora tab hi hum ose sahi man sakte hain.
aur kuch log jese quranic ayat ka matlab bhi apni hi marzi se nikalte hain isi trha agar koi aap se keh raha hai k ye bat ya ye hadees is bat ko wazeh kti hai waghera waghera to humare lie ye man'na bhi asan nahi hai.jab tak hum os hadees,os qoul ko confirm na kr lein k aya ye jo likha gya hai kia esa hi hai jo reference dia gya hai.

 

[Deep Silence]

baqi sab ka thanx jinhu ne yahan reply kia.
saviuo bhai jazak Allah.maine pehle esa topic nahi dekha means previous topic search nahi kia k is se related to koi nahi.sorry

 

[Don]

you are right !!! isi lie may nay end may kaha hai k Reference check kar lena hi behter hai.. dil wali baat is lie kahi k is say help mili gi yeh faysla lene par k yeh SMS agay forward karna cahiey k nahi... agar ap ka dil kehta hai k haan is may tohri bahut sachai hai to go ahead.. but still may yahi kahonga k reference check karna hi best hai....

Don bhai aap ki bat bhi ksi had tak theik hai.k humare dil ko jis bat pe itminan ho to hum ose hi sahi samjhein magar esa nahi hota.kabhi humara dil bhi ghalat ho sakta hai is lie agar aap k pas koi bhi esa sms ae jo k with reference na ho aur ho bhi to pora tab hi hum ose sahi man sakte hain.
aur kuch log jese quranic ayat ka matlab bhi apni hi marzi se nikalte hain isi trha agar koi aap se keh raha hai k ye bat ya ye hadees is bat ko wazeh kti hai waghera waghera to humare lie ye man'na bhi asan nahi hai.jab tak hum os hadees,os qoul ko confirm na kr lein k aya ye jo likha gya hai kia esa hi hai jo reference dia gya hai.

 

[saviou]

baqi sab ka thanx jinhu ne yahan reply kia.
saviuo bhai jazak Allah.maine pehle esa topic nahi dekha means previous topic search nahi kia k is se related to koi nahi.sorry

Allahi barik feek
aur sorry ki koi baat nahi apke is thread se aur bhi maloomat huyi
Jazakallah khair