Firqa Parasti???

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mera yahan 1 swal hai firqay k baray main k ye jo muslim aaj kal kehtay hain k hum deo bandi hian
wahabi hain,,,ahl-e-hadees hain brailwi hain.kiya koi information de sakta hai k ye firqa parasti kub aur kahan se shooruh hui jab k ap (SAWW) k dor-e-mubarak aur sahab-e-aram k dor main aisa kuch nahi tha
i m waiting ur replies plz..{(popcorn)}
 

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yeh hum muslim logon ki saab say bharee kamzori hai k hum iss cheaz main hee apass main aik dosrai ko martai rahai gai aur aik din ahai ga k kasey dushman ko hum ko marnay ki zarorat nahi pharai gi
 
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hmmm lakin meri samj main nahi ata ahlay sunnat ka matlab to ye hua na k sunnat par amal karnay walay ,,,to zahir hai hadees par bhi amaal kartay hain aur quran-e-paak to khair hai hi ,,,to kiya ye behtar nahi k sirf sunni kaha jye ..

lakin 1 hadees main hai k aap (SAWW) nay farmaya k

"meri ummat main 72 firqay hongay aur 1 firqa jannat main jye ga"

agr is hadees ko dekha jye to is main firqay ka zikr hai yani 71 wrong aur jo bacha wo jannati ..m i wrong?

lakin wo baat alag hai k Allah jis par chahay karam farma de chahay wo koi bhi ho

firqabandi main choti choti batain 1 taraf lakin kuch bato se deen muttasir horaha hai...main nay ye tak sunna hai quran-e-paak ka sahi translation b nahi ki jati i mean tafseer kyn k arabic ki translation wo nahi hoti jo log samjhtay hain to jo nihayat mustanid aur poorani translations hain sub un se faida kyn nahi utha tay..

1 aur bat qurn-e-paak k ilawa ahadees mubarka bhi to hain jin par amal kiya jata hai..lakin kuch log kehtay hain ye quran-e-paak main kahan likha hai?

phir baat ati hai sunnat ki jo k sahab-e-karam se sabit hoti hain to ap un ko nahi maantay ...kuch log...jin ka uthna bethna aur sona aap(SAWW) k saath tha jo ap k relatives hain un ki rivayaat to un ki baat ko rad kar dena..

ye kahan ka insaaf hai k ap sirf behas karain ghorofikr na karain
 

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ss sister app apney jagaa teek hai per koi bhi yeh nahi bataa saktaa k kyon say firka teek hai ya hoga

aur rahee baat sunnat ki too ajj ka muslim atna burai ki taraaf ragib ho gaya hai k sunnat too dhoor ki

baat woh faraaz bhi teek say purai nahi kartaa
 

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ss sister app apney jagaa teek hai per koi bhi yeh nahi bataa saktaa k kyon say firka teek hai ya hoga

aur rahee baat sunnat ki too ajj ka muslim atna burai ki taraaf ragib ho gaya hai k sunnat too dhoor ki

baat woh faraaz bhi teek say purai nahi kartaa
jo jaisa karraha hai wo waisa bharay ga bhi is ka matlab ye nahi k sunnat par bat karna chor dain..kiya ajeeb bat kardi (ap nay aajkal koi farz hi ada nahi karta sunnat door ki bat)

koi amal karay na karay par qayamat tak sunnat par baat hoti rahay gi aur tableegh bhi jis ko Alllah toofeq dega wo amal karay ga par ap log to apna kaam jaari rakhain na k is tarha kehna{(thinkg)}
 
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jo jaisa karraha hai wo waisa bharay ga bhi is ka matlab ye nahi k sunnat par bat karna chor dain..kiya ajeeb bat kardi (ap nay aajkal koi farz hi ada nahi karta sunnat door ki bat)

koi amal karay na karay par qayamat tak sunnat par baat hoti rahay gi aur tableegh bhi jis ko Alllah toofeq dega wo amal karay ga par ap log to apna kaam jaari rakhain na k is tarha kehna{(thinkg)}

mere baat ka yeh matlab nahi ta k sunnat per amaal na karahai ... ya tableeg na karahai ... main too hum muslim per roshani ki aik jalak daal raha ta k asay hoo raha hai ...
 

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Asalamo aliekum{(gimmefive)}

bhayon aur behno

hopfully all are right

mera yahan 1 swal hai firqay k baray main k ye jo muslim aaj kal kehtay hain k hum deo bandi hian
wahabi hain,,,ahl-e-hadees hain brailwi hain.kiya koi information de sakta hai k ye firqa parasti kub aur kahan se shooruh hui jab k ap (SAWW) k dor-e-mubarak aur sahab-e-aram k dor main aisa kuch nahi tha
i m waiting ur replies plz..{(popcorn)}
I am so sorry k mujhe reply karne mein kuch time lag gaya aur sorry ke mujhe iss thread say 4 replies ko filhal delete karna para kyon ki iss Section ka zimma mujhe soonpa gaya hai so answer bhi daina mera kam hai.

Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ne Irshad farmaya ke meri ummat say 73 Firqay hon gai aur unn mein say sirf 1 Jannati hoo ga.
Sahaba ne arz ki Ya
Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) woh Jannati Firqa konsa hai ? tu Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ne irshad farmaya jo Meray aur Meray Sahaba ke Tareeqa per hai.

Aur Muhaddiseen ne likha ke woh Jannati Firqa Ahl-e-Sunnat hai... Abb app kahain gai ke har koi yahi dawah karta hai ke Ahl-e-Sunnat hone ka dawah karta hai laikin dawah karne say kuch nahi hota baat hai saboot ki aur aqida ki.

Sahaba-e-Karam kaa yeh mamool tha ke jab
Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) apne Baal Shareef (Hair) ki cutting karwaty tu Sahaba Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ke irdh girdh jamah hoo kar app ke Baal Mubarak apne hathon mein lai laity aur Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ke baal mubarak ko neeche nahi girne daity thay.
Yeh kya tha ? Tazeem-e-Nabi... jiss ne
Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ki tazeem ki wohi Sacha Musalman aur Ahl-e-Sunnat hai.

Aik aur Hadith mein aya hai ke aik dafa
Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) Sahaba ke darmayaan tashreef farma thay ke kuch logh aai aur arz kiya Ya Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) humare Shaam aur (Ghalban Yaman ) ke liye Dua farmain tu Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ne unn dono Countries ke liye Dua farmai kuch sahaba ne arz kiya Ya Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) humare Najad ke liye dua farmain tu Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) khamosh ho gai Sahaba ne phir arz kiya Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) bhi khamosh rahai aur sahaba ne phir arz kiya tu Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ne irshad farmaya ke Najad say buhat Fitnay Uthain gai aur wahan say Shaitaan ka SINGH niklay ga.

Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ki ahadith ke mutabiq yeh kaam taqreeban 1200 Hijri mein hona tha aur Muhadiseen ne bhi yahi farmaya aur 1200 Hijri mein aik Fitna Ibn-e-Abdul Wahab Najdi utha jiss ne Musalmano ka Qatl-e-Aam kia Ulama ko Qatl kiya Makkah Aur Madinah per hamla kar ke wahan najaiz kabza kiya aur bay shumar bay gunnah musalmano ko qatl kar diya.

Aur Abdul Wahab Najdi woh pehla shakhs tha jiss ne Aimaa (Imamo) ki taqleed ko najaiz balky shirk kaha aur Ghair Muqalid raha halanke woh apne app ko Imam Ahmed Bin Hamble Alaihe Rahmah ka Muqalid kehta tha jo sara sar jhoot hai... Yeh woh Insaan tha jiss ne
Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) ki shaan mein bad tareen ghustakhiyan ki aur yahi woh Insaan tha jiss ne kaha ke Rasool Allah (sallalahu alaihe wassalam) KA ROZA SAB SAY BARA BUTT HAI AUR ISS KO GIRA DAINA BUHAT SAWAB KA KAAM HAI :( iss bad bakht ko maan'ne walon ko Ajj Wahabi, Najdi ya Ahl-e-Hadith kehty hain yani yeh 1 hee Fitna ke 3 names hain.

Abdul Wahab Najdi ne aik book likhi thi Al-Tauheed ( jo ajj bhi Saudi Arabia mein Publish hoti hai aur kuch Hajj per jane waloon ko bhi di jati hai ) jiss ka Urdu Tarjuma pehli dafa Molvi Ismaeel Dehalvi ne India mein kiya jiss ka name TAQWIYA-TUL-IMAAN rakha gaya.
Iss book mein
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Ismaeel Dehalvi woh pehla insaan tha jiss ne Bar-e-Shageer ke Musalmano mein yeh intshar phelaya tha.
Deoband Hanafi Zaror hain laikin unn ko Ahl-e-Sunnat nahi kaha jaa sakta kyon ki unn ke aqaid buhat buray hain Deoband ke Ulama mein say Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Molvi Qasim Nanotvi, Molvi Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi, Molvi Khalil Ahmed ne kuch aise Books likhi jinn ke ibarat ka zikr kartay howay bhi rooh kanp uthti hai inn Ibarat ko app aik dafa read karain ke Ulama-e-Deoband ne kya kya likha.




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dark nite nay jop kaha wo suboot ki base par kaha kiya ap is se inkaar kartay hain

main nay ye sub pehli baar parha hai aur aankho main ansu anay lagay k wahabi/debandi kis ko kehtay hain
is se pehlay samjhti thi k shayad bus thori bohat hi batain hongi lakin dark nite nay sub kuch waza batya hai

ap
sirf aankhain band kar k un aqeedo ko maantay rahay gay jo ghalat hain han agr nahi maangay to firqa to banna hi hai kyn k hadees jo hai...

in baato ko sun kar jo un naam nehaad molvion nay phailai aur masoom awam ko bewakoof banaya gaya hai un ko pata hi nahi

k wahabi aur debandi kis ka naam hai bus apnay naam k saath ye tag lagye phir rahay hain

ab kub jagay gay ap log in bato ko jhoota samjh rahay hain kitni bari batain hain ye mjay to Allah ka laakh shukar ada karna hoga aur un longo ko bhi jo wahabi aur deabandi nahi aur unho nay apnay upar is ka tag nahi lagaya hua

bus is liya kehtain hain na kyn k us gharanay main peda huay chahay wo log ghalti par hon zara ghor kar k dekhain to saara pol khul gaya hain

thanx dark nite {(goodpost)}aap ka shukria ada karnay ki meri auqaat nahi hai ap nay kitna bara masla hal kar dea
meri aankhain khul gai ap log bhi khol lain plz Allah hum sub ko deen par amal karnay aur is ka faham ata karay ameen summa ameen
 

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yaar tumey aik sey zayada forums par is post par jotey parey hain lakin phir ye hi kar detey ho kuch to ALLAH ka khoof karo TDK
Apni Autaq mein tum rehte nahi aur phir kehty ho ke Dark Knight humari posts delete karta hai Jutiyan tu tujhe parti hain laikin tujhe sharam bhi nahi aur asar bhi nahi
 

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dark nite nay jop kaha wo suboot ki base par kaha kiya ap is se inkaar kartay hain

main nay ye sub pehli baar parha hai aur aankho main ansu anay lagay k wahabi/debandi kis ko kehtay hain
is se pehlay samjhti thi k shayad bus thori bohat hi batain hongi lakin dark nite nay sub kuch waza batya hai

ap
sirf aankhain band kar k un aqeedo ko maantay rahay gay jo ghalat hain han agr nahi maangay to firqa to banna hi hai kyn k hadees jo hai...

in baato ko sun kar jo un naam nehaad molvion nay phailai aur masoom awam ko bewakoof banaya gaya hai un ko pata hi nahi

k wahabi aur debandi kis ka naam hai bus apnay naam k saath ye tag lagye phir rahay hain

ab kub jagay gay ap log in bato ko jhoota samjh rahay hain kitni bari batain hain ye mjay to Allah ka laakh shukar ada karna hoga aur un longo ko bhi jo wahabi aur deabandi nahi aur unho nay apnay upar is ka tag nahi lagaya hua

bus is liya kehtain hain na kyn k us gharanay main peda huay chahay wo log ghalti par hon zara ghor kar k dekhain to saara pol khul gaya hain

thanx dark nite {(goodpost)}aap ka shukria ada karnay ki meri auqaat nahi hai ap nay kitna bara masla hal kar dea
meri aankhain khul gai ap log bhi khol lain plz Allah hum sub ko deen par amal karnay aur is ka faham ata karay ameen summa ameen

Thanks Alot... Mujhe Khushi hai ke mujh jaise Hakeer ki Post ki gai cheez say app ko Haq-o-Batil mein Farq Pata Chal Gaya.
kyon ki App ka Masla Solve ho gaya hai so...
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