salman taaseer ka qatl

[Noor_Afridi]

Don bhai aap ki baat baja ,lekin meiN bina sanad o reference k pesh karda rivayat par yaqeen nahi rakhta. aap ki pesh karda rivayat k barey meiN meiN nahiN janta k wo "matwatar" ya sahih hai k nahiN.meiN to itna janta hooN k hazrat umar ne khud rasool saww k bataye huve qavaneen meiN tarameem keiN.

sunan abu dawood , hadith : 437
"Rasool allah saww k zamaney meiN sharab ki hadd(saza) 40 durrey thi , hazrat abu bakr k dor meiN bhi yehi saza raiej rahi , hazrat umar ibn e khattab ne 80 durrey kar diye"

kia ye qanoon e khuda aur qanoon e rasool saww meiN tarmeem nahiN?? agar salman taseer ne qanoon meiN tarmeem ka mutaliba kia to hazrat umar k barey meiN kia khayal hai aapka , salman taseer to gustaakh e rasool hai , aur ussey saza bhi mil gai aur hazrat umar???

ek aur rivayat pesh e khidmat hai ,
"abdullah ibn e umar ibne khattab se kisi ne ne umra e tamt'a (mutaah e umra) k barey meiN poocha to unhoN ne kaha jaiez hai , phir sawal karne wale ne kaha k tumharey baap , umar ibn e khattab to mana kartey thay , to abdullah ibn e umar ne kaha bhala dekh to sahi , agar mera baap mana karey aur rasool saww wahi kaam kareiN to mere baap ki tab'edaari ki jaaye gi ya rasool saww ki? to saiel ne jawab dia k rasool saww ki"

iss wazeh wazeh rivayat ko paRhne k baad aap ki kia roy hai ?? hazrat umar k apne beTey abdullah ibn e umar keh rahe heiN k unn k walid hazrat umar ne rasool saww k hukm k khilaaf hukm dia , aur rasool saww ne umra e tamt'a ko jaiez qarar dia aur hazrat umar ne uss ko najaiez. aur ye rivayat "tavatur" k sath hai , ilm e hadees rakhne waley jantey heiN k "matwatar" hadees kisey kehte heiN.

aik aur hadees arz karta hooN ,


hazrat umar tehreef e quraan k qaiel thay , mota imam malik : page 594
"umar ibn e khattab ka kehna k ayat e rajm quraan meiN mojood thi "

ek aur jaga hazrat umar ne kaha k ayat e rajm quraan meiN mojood thi jo k ab nahiN hai ,
quraan meiN allah ne hifazat e quraan ka zimma khud lia hai , lehaaza islam meiN tehreef e quran ka aqeeda rakhne wala murtadd hai aur gustakh e rasool o gustaakh e khuda hai ... maazrat k sath , ye sab meiN nahiN keh raha balkeh imam malik sihaah e sittah ki ek motabar kitaab mota meiN keh rahey heiN.

ek aur rivayat arz karta chalooN ,

sahih bukhari , jild: 1, hadith : 867 , page 381
"zahri rivayat kartey heiN k juma k din pehli azaan is waqt hoti thi jab imam minbar par beTh jata tha , rasool allah saww , hazrat abu bakr , aur hazrat umar k zamaney tak isi tarah hua , jab khilafat e hazrat usman shuru hui to hazrat usman ne juma k din teesri aazan dene ka hukm dia aur phir ye silsila chalta raha"

Don bhai , ab aap ka kia khayal hai ?? ek puri ki puri aazan meiN izafa karna yani hukm e rasool saww meiN tarmeem karna jaiez hai ya na jaiez?? agar jaiez hai to salman taseer ghalat kyuN ? aur agar najaiez hai to hazrat usmaan...??? felsa khud suna dijiye ga ab soch k ...

mere khayal se itni rivayaat kafi heiN aap ki tasalli k lye.

meiN maslak o maktab k havaley se "tehqeeq" ka qaiel hooN na k "taqleed" ka. aap agar gustaakhi ki bat kareiN to wo konsi aisi gustakhi e rasool saww hai jo bukhari meiN mojood nahiN??? meiN ne jab inn kutub ka mutalia kia to mere rongTey khaRey ho gaye ...

ab aap ne baat cher hee di hai to aap ko kuch aur tohfey bhi diye chalta hooN ,

sahih bukhari jild :1 , hadith :213 meiN rasool saww ne farmaya k peshaab ki cheentoN se parhaiz na karna sakht gunah aur sabab e azaab hai.
ye rivayat page 175 pe hai , page 177 par ek hadees mulahiza kijiye :
ye hadees likhtey huve meri ungliyaaN kaanp rahi heiN k imam bukhari ne itni baRi gustakhi likhi shan e aqdas meiN ..
Naozobillah,
" rasool allah saww kisi qoum k kooRa karkat dalne wali jagha par tashreef laaye aur khaRey ho k peshaab kia "
allah o akbar ! ab aap khud fesla kijiye , pehle wali hadees meiN rasool allah ek kaam ko gunah keh rahey heiN aur imam bukhari aur unn ko manney waloN k mutabiq ussi kaam ko khud anjaam de rahey heiN (maazallah) yani aap saww (naozobillah , naql e kufr , kufr nabashd) ne gunah anjam dia ...

meiN nahiN samajhta k iss se baRi gustaakhi aap ki shan meiN koi kar sakta hai , ham log kafiroN par to tanqeedeiN kartey heiN lekin apney girebaan nahiN dekhte.kaafiroN ne bhi inhi kitaboN se parh parh kar gustaakhiyaN ki heiN.

agar koi ek hadees ho to meiN tasleem bhi karuN puri sahih bukhari iss tarah ki gustaakhiyaN mojood heiN bukhari jild :1 hadees : 392 meiN likha gaya hai k rasool allah saww ne ek dafa bhool kar zohar 4 rakatoN ki bajaye 5 rakateiN paRha di.(naozobillah)

ab mujhe bataiye kia ye kisi gustaakhi se kam hai ?? aap jin kitaboN par eeman rakhtey heiN jo kitaab aap ki motabar tareen kitaab hai uss meiN rasool saww k barey meiN kia kia likha hai ??? kia rasool saww ko gunahgaar sabit karna gustaakhi nahiN???

phir bhoolna to darkinaar , isi jild meiN hadees : 565 meiN likhaa gaya hai k rasool saww ki nimazeiN aksar qaza ho jati theiN (naozobillah)

woh rasool saww jinhoN ne hameiN nimaazeiN sikhaaeiN unn k barey meiN aisa kehna k un ki nimaz qaza ho jati thi gustaakhi nahiN???
wo rasool jin k ahl e bait k barey meiN quraan keh raha hai k nijasat o rijs inn se door hai to rasool ko gunahgar sabit karna (naozobillah) gustaakhi nahiN???


phir sahih bukhari jild 1 hadees : 2467 meiN rasool allah k barey meiN likha gaya hai k (naozobillah) ek dafa quraan kareem ki tilawat kartey huve rasool allah saww ayateiN bhool gaye aur kisi ne unheiN ayateiN yaad karwaeiN (ma'azallah , mere muNh meiN khaak)

wo rasool saww jin k qalb pe quraan nazil hua unheiN quran ki ayateiN bhool jana aur iss par waaye ye k aik ghair masoom ka unheiN ayateiN yad karwana....kia ye gustaakhi nahiN ???

rasool allah saww k barey meiN "gunah" aur "khata" ka tasavvur karne wala hee murtad o kafir ho jata hai aur waaey ho inn musalmanoN par jinki kitab meiN kia kia gustaakhiyaN ki gai heiN...

don bhai and tooba , meri iss tamam tarr tamheed ka maqsad ye hai k ham wo heiN jinhoN ne dusroN par tanqeed karna seekha hai ,kabhi apne girebaan meiN jhaank kar nahiN dekha , hamarey naaam nihaad molvi o mulla hameiN apne matlab ki rivayateiN to sunatey heiN aur jab koi gustakhi karey ussey qatl karne k fatwey bhi detey heiN magar kabhi ye hadeeseiN bayan keiN?? aur aam musalman ko to bukhari kia , quraan ko paRhne aur samajhne ki bhi toufeeq nahiN hoti , abhi to meiN ne chand rivayateiN bayan ki heiN bukhari bhari paRi hai aisi hadeesoN se.

ab aap khud fesla kijiye , ya to bukhari o hazrat umar ko ghalat qarar de dijiye ya rasool saww ko naozobillah "khata kaar" aur "gunahgaar" maan lijiye ...!!!

inn rivayatoN ko paRhne k baad mera imaan to uth gaya hai bukhari aur iss k manney waloN se , meiN to kehta hooN qanoon tahaffuz namoos e risalat k tehet imam bukhari aur uss k tamam manney waley molvi aur jo iss kitaab par eman rakhtey heiN woh sab hee gustaakh e rasool saww heiN , inn sab ko mout ki saza deni chahye.salman taseer kam az kam inn munafiqoN ki tarah to nahiN tha uss ne qanoon meiN tarmeem ka mutalba kia aur sahih bukhari k peshwa naozobillah rasool saww ko gunahgar sabit kar rahey heiN.

iss havale se atleast muje "ahl e tashayyo" k aqaied tarjeehan mustanad nazar aaney lagtey heiN jin k nazdeek rasool saww masoom heiN unn k barey meiN gunah ka tasavvur karne se hee islam se insan kharij ho jata hai.meiN ne unnki tamam tarr kitaboN ka mutalia kia hai aur yaqeen kijiye , unn ki kitaboN meiN aisi koi rivayat nahiN mili mujhe jis meiN aanhazrat k barey meiN gustaakhi ki gai ho.

wama alaina illal balaghul mubeen...


---------- Post added at 06:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ----------

tooba khan se meri guzaarish hai k tehzeeb k daiera meiN rehte huve baat kareiN , meiN na to badtahzeeb logoN se bat karta hooN na unko bardaasht karta hooN ,meiN deen k havale se koi bhi baat solid proof aur reference k sath karta hooN , agar aap daleel k sath baat nahiN kar sakteiN to khamosh rahye aur apni "sukhan e nayaab" ko apni hadd tak mehdood rakheiN.

mohdbin qasim aur tooba , apke tamam tarr savalaat k jawab meri above post meiN mojood heiN.

tum nay jiS tarah baat ka rukh badla Os say mujhe pehlay hi andaza hOgaya tha k Tum Shia hO Or aakhir may tum nay Saboot bhi dedia
iss havale se atleast muje "ahl e tashayyo" k aqaied tarjeehan mustanad nazar aaney lagtey heiN jin k nazdeek rasool saww masoom heiN unn k barey meiN gunah ka tasavvur karne se hee islam se insan kharij ho jata hai.meiN ne unnki tamam tarr kitaboN ka mutalia kia hai aur yaqeen kijiye , unn ki kitaboN meiN aisi koi rivayat nahiN mili mujhe jis meiN aanhazrat k barey meiN gustaakhi ki gai ho.
aap ki ittela k liyeh Arz hai yeh thread Salman taSeer Or Qadri k baray may banai gai hai k kiSsi Sahabi ya Hozoor S.A.W.W k baray may nahi banai gai
aap ki bari meharbani hOgi k aap iS thread may kiSsi Sahabi k ya Hozoor S.A.W.W k baray may baat na karay Sirf Salman Taseer Or Qadri baray may hi baat karain
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[Noor_Afridi]

aapki is post se maine chund ek baaten note ki hain mulaheza kijiye.
1 . aap topic ko ghalat rukh par dalne ki koshish kar rahe hain.aur taaseer k bajaye aap Islam ko aur uski mootabar kitabaon ko ghalat saabit karne ki koshish kar rahe hain.

2 . aapne subah chund ek kitabaon ka mutaala karliya aur shaam tak mufti bangaye.

3 . kia aap quran ko jo aaj hamare paas maujood hai use mante hain.aur agar aap mante hote to sahih bukhari ko ghalat sabit karne ki jurrat na karte.kyunke ye shia aur qadianiaon ka kaam hai.

4 . ya fir aap muslaman nahi balke khud ko musalman kahlane wale qadiani ho.ya shia.ya fir aap murtad hone ka irada kar rahe hain.

ab aayie jo baten aapne apne post me batayi hai.uska ek ek k saath tafseel se jawab mulaheza farmayyie.

aapne kaha k sahih bukhari me aisi bahot si balke poori kitab nabi(s) ki gustakhi se bhari hui hai is se aap ye saabit karne ki koshish kar rahe hain k sahih bukhari motabar kitab nahi.agar aap musalman hain aur kisi bhi maslak se taaluq rakhte hain to aapko main ye batata chalon k tamam jamhoor ulma ka ye muttafiqa faisla hi k sahih bukhari aur muslim do aisi kitaben hain.jinme koi ghalat,manghadat,ya mauzu ahadees nahi hain.aur poori ki poori sahih hai.aur iska darja quran k baad aata hai.aur aapke ilm me ye baat daalun k saha sittah jo aap kah rahe hain wo saha sittah nahi balke kutub sittah hain.sahih sir do hain bukhari aur muslim.

imam bukhari ek aisi shaqsiat thi jinke haafize me 70,000 aahadees ka zaqeera sahih asnaad k saath maujood tha.uski ek misal ye hai k ek martabe ka waqiya hi k.bukhara shahar me ilm e quran o hadees k bahot se marakiz thei.ek din imam bukhari rahimahumullah imam daakhli k dars me shareek hue us waqt imam daakhli hadees suna rahe the aur unho ne hadees ki sanad kuch is tarha bayan ki k " sufyan an abi zubair an ibrahim " farmadia.ye sun kar imam bukhari (r) ne farmaya k iski sanad is tarha nahi balke is tarha hai."an abi zubair wahuwa an ibn adi an ibrahim".ye thi unki zahanat aur is waqt unki umr sir 11 saal thi.aur imam bukhari rahimahumullah ne jo ahadees ka zaqeera jama kia tha wo 70,000 kam o besh tha laikin usme se unho ne apni sahih me sirf 7653 ahadees darj ki.

rahi baat aapki paishaab wali riwayat ki to usme koi shak o shuba ki gunjayesh hi nahi kyunke nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam ka har fel o amal ummat k liye rahmat hua karta tha na k zahmat.is amal se nabi(s) ko masood ye ho ko ummat ko ye sahulat bhi mil jaaye k agar aisa mauqa aajaaye k jahan jagah saaf suthri naho wahan taher kar bhi peshab kia jasakta hai.

aapki doosr baat hazrat ibn umar wali riwayat ki to uska jawab ye hai k hosakta hai hazrat omar raziallahu anha ne nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam se ye baat na suni ho.ab yahan aap k zahan me ek sawal ye paida hota hoga k omar raziallahu anha to har waqt nabi(s) k saath hi raha karte thei aur ye kaise hosakta hai k un tak ye baat na pahunchi ho.to uska jawab ye hai k ek martaba khilafat hazrat abubakar (r) ke zamane me se ek boodhi aurat ne inse sawal kia k poote ki waeasat me daadi k kia hissa hai.jabke ye sawal hazrat abubakar(r) ko nahi maaloom thi to unho ne majme me baithe doosre sahaba se maaloom kia k kia tumne nabi(s) se suna k poote ki wirasat me daadi ka kia hissa hai to sahab ne jawab dia han humne suna k poote ki wirasat me daadi ka bhi hissa hota hai.halanke hazrat abubakar (r) to har waqt nabi(s) k saath saath rahte thei.

aur aapne likha k nauzbillah imam bukhari ne sahih bukhari me nabi(s) ki tauheen ki aur kaha k nabi(s) se bhool chook bhi hoti thi to aapko batadun k nabi(s) sirf ek insan thei aur insan hone k naate unse bhool chook bhi hoti thi.quran ki is aayath me wazeh taur par Allah taala ne farmaya k " mohammed sallallahu alaihi wasallam sirf ek insan hain agar ye wafat paa jaaye ya unko qatal kardiya jaaye to kia tum islam se yediaon k bal fir jaoge aur agar koi islam se yediaon k bal fir jaaye to wo jaan le k wo islam ka kuch bhi nahi baigad sakte"is aayath se is baat ka pata chalta hai k mohammed (s) sirf ek bashr hain.aur unse ghalti ka imkaan hai.is keliye main aapko bahot si aur daleel bhi desakta hon inshaAllah.

Allah aapko sahih samajh ata farma.aameen

bilkOl Sahi kaha brO aap nay jizakaa Allah
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[Noor_Afridi]

GeNiuS
tum kehtay hO k Shia ki QitabO may kiSsi keSam ki kOi gustakhi nahi hOti
On ki tO live video hai Youtube par jis may may wO Sahaba ki Shaan may gustakhi kartay hain hazrat Umer hazrat Usman Hazrat Abbu bakkar k baray may kia kOch nahi kehtay kia wO Sahi hain
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[Qawareer]

jb QURAN or Hadees hain humare pass to muje kisi se kuch pochne ki zarurt nhi..
muje eysa lg rha hai ap logo ne is bat ko anna ka masla bna liya hai..
plz ab sb bs kro..
sb kuch ALLAH PAR CHOR DO..
wo sb ko aaqal or shaur aata farmaye..
ameen

[/COLOR]@ anaaya ali ,

aap kindly ye hadeeseiN soudi arab k jayyed muftiyaan ko dikhaaiye jaa kar jinhoN ne salman taseer ko shaheed qarar de dia , yahaN dikhaney se koi khaatir khaah faieda nahiN hoga

 

[Redvirus]

Dear brother , meiN ne jo kaha hai authenticity k sath kaha hai , hazrat umar ko iss liye tashbeeh di k hazrat umar ne bhi qavaneen e rasool saww meiN tarameem keiN aur salman taseer ne tarmeem ka mutaliba kia.aap meri post paRh lijiye jo meiN ne don bhai ki post k jawab meiN likhi hai , bila maarifat kisi par tanqeed karna durust nahiN.

Just read your post again agr ni parh sakty to main Quote kar dyta hoon tumhari sari posts main bad main parhu ga but jis trha tum ny likha tha k jab Salmaan taseer ny changes k liye saza to Hazrat Umar ko. Don't you know anything k dono k kirdar main kis kadr fark hai. Agr ni yakeen to lahore ao main dekha dyta hoon uski family abhi zinda hai. Bl k tum slmaan taseer k time main he a jaty tb b pta chal jata k wo shaks kis trha ka insan raha hai. wo shaaks jo daily sham ko sharam main duba rehta hai tum usko Hazrat Umar R.A sy compare kar rahy ho mery liye bat yahe khatm ho jati hai. tumhari sari authenticity main bad main read karu ga but tum pehly sirf apni Post read karo k jo tum ny likha tha. Just to read your post. Ni no NOOR sahe keh raha hai. i wouldn't give it the wast ni to topic bht barh jaye ga But NOOR jo bat tum kar rahy ho wo main khud b dekh chuka hoon! Wo cheez sirf Youtube par he ni AAM dekhny main a jati hai!

 

[Redvirus]

GeNiuS
tum kehtay hO k Shia ki QitabO may kiSsi keSam ki kOi gustakhi nahi hOti
On ki tO live video hai Youtube par jis may may wO Sahaba ki Shaan may gustakhi kartay hain hazrat Umer hazrat Usman Hazrat Abbu bakkar k baray may kia kOch nahi kehtay kia wO Sahi hain
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Yeah man jis thra GENIUS biyaanat dy raha hai mera b mind wahe jata hai or video kya dekhu main ny khud suna hua hai k kaisy ilfaz use karty hain. Anyway kindly is topic ko yahe rakho ni to behas bht barh jaye gi.

 

[Don]

Dear brother , meiN ne jo kaha hai authenticity k sath kaha hai , hazrat umar ko iss liye tashbeeh di k hazrat umar ne bhi qavaneen e rasool saww meiN tarameem keiN aur salman taseer ne tarmeem ka mutaliba kia.aap meri post paRh lijiye jo meiN ne don bhai ki post k jawab meiN likhi hai , bila maarifat kisi par tanqeed karna durust nahiN.

Are you drunk or something? No, seriously, how dare you to compare Salman Taseer with Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.... Hazrat Umar Farooq wo thay jin ko Hazrat Muhammad SAW nay duniya may jannat ki basharat di thi:
"Jaber Radi allaho anho se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam ne farmaya mein jannat mein gaya aur wahan ek ghar ya mahal dekha mainey pucha ye kiska hai ?logon ne kaha ye Umar bin khattab radi allaho anho ka hai mainey andar jana chaha phir tumhari gairat ka mujhe khayal aaya ye sunkar hazrat umar roye aur arz ki YA Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam (Kya) main aapkey jane se gairat karta ?"
Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5896:

And I am about to expose one truth here... I think Genius is Shia, becaause he is keep Trying to attack Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.. And all Shia go against Hazrat Umar Farooq because Shia thinks that Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A mudered Bibi Fatimah R.A. but I do not know the complete details...
Genius if you are not shia can you tell us what is your Kalma ? and what do you think of Hazrat Ali R.A and please only answer this if you claim not to be Shia.

I am sorry guys, topic was about Salman Taseer qatal, laykin topic hi aysa hai k yeh sari batein chal rahi hain... but we were arguing with Shia instead of arguing or discussion Salman Taseer Qatal...

I hope k ab yeh topic wapis apne maqsad par aye ga, agar nahi then it will be closed:

@ Adi: just think/pretend for one minute, k Salman Taseer k Qatal may koi Politics nahi thi. Now reply ....

 

[Atif-adi]

Listen Atif i red your all posts you are talking about Politics i found you are the only person whose continuely arguing about Politics it is politics it is politics but you didn't give any proof any single proof? Tum dusro ko keh rahy ho you never know then my question is with you. Do you know Politics? Tumhai ABC b pta hai. If yes then give me some valid reason not this "YOU NEVER NO POLITICS TYPE BIYANAT" and read my coming comments Plz.





Em 110% with you man. This is what i want to write in this thread. Main is liye ni keh raha coz you are the Admin but you wrote those words jo main ny bolny thy. I think no doubt k jo kaha hai wo sab kafi hai but main is main kuch or add karu ga wo ye k us ny directly islamic Law ko KALA KANOON bola tha. (Nazubillah) Kya koi muslim Allah K bnaye gaye Kanoon ko Kala kanoon bol sakta hai or sun sakta hai?



Oh! Can you read about your comments again k aisa shakhs ko Islamic Kanoon ko kala kanoon kehta hai jo islamic law change karna chahta hai or wo shaks rooz sham ko apny SHARAB khany main shaam guzarta hai jis k ghar main roz dance parties hoti hain jis ki olad usko puchti ni hai jis ki olad adhi nangi ghoomti hai jis ki betiya sir par dupaata orhna to dur badan par kapry pehanna pasand ni karti. or wo is sb aiyashi ko LIBERAL hony ka nam dyta hai ye liberal word sun'ny main decent lagta hai bt is ki depth dekho to pta chal jaye k ye word use hota kaisy hai. Aisy log LIBERAL word k peechy apni aiyashi chupaty hain aisa shakas apko Mazhabi lagta hai? Kisi ka bap Naik ho iska matlb ye ni hai k uska beta b baksha jaye ga. Ghazi Ilam Deen Shaheed ny marny sy pehly ye kaha tha k Main ny Apni Nabi sy ishq main kiya hai jo kiya iska mtlb ye ni k mera pura khandan bakhsha jaye ga Namaz kaim karo ye wasiyat ki the us ny.


I think you didn't listen the news BADSHAI MASJID k imam ny Salman Taseer ki namaz e janaza parhany sy inkar diya Kya ye choti bat hai? Do you know personally IMAM of Badshai Masjid?



You are still standing there without any proof! bs politics politics kar rahy ho abi tk koi valid reason ni di tum ny! argue with proofs.

bro na me yaha debate ker raha hun na kisi ki side le raha hun,na me marne wale k sath hun...

n me yaha you never knwo sirf apne lie nai bul k sab k lie use ker raha hun jo yaha hai including me... kyun k ager tum bhi nai keh sakte k tume sab kuch pata hai politics me kya chal raha hai... so be real k ye sab ho sakta hai kyu k such sirf Allah tallah hi janta hai...hum yaha sirf apne point of view de sakte hain koi 100 % sure nai hai...k waja kya hogi so prove kis bat ka??

 

[annie qadri]

bro na me yaha debate ker raha hun na kisi ki side le raha hun,na me marne wale k sath hun...

N me yaha you never knwo sirf apne lie nai bul k sab k lie use ker raha hun jo yaha hai including me... Kyun k ager tum bhi nai keh sakte k tume sab kuch pata hai politics me kya chal raha hai... So be real k ye sab ho sakta hai kyu k such sirf allah tallah hi janta hai...hum yaha sirf apne point of view de sakte hain koi 100 % sure nai hai...k waja kya hogi so prove kis bat ka??

jis ne mara hai wo khud keh raha hai

 

[Atif-adi]

Are you drunk or something? No, seriously, how dare you to compare Salman Taseer with Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.... Hazrat Umar Farooq wo thay jin ko Hazrat Muhammad SAW nay duniya may jannat ki basharat di thi:
"Jaber Radi allaho anho se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam ne farmaya mein jannat mein gaya aur wahan ek ghar ya mahal dekha mainey pucha ye kiska hai ?logon ne kaha ye Umar bin khattab radi allaho anho ka hai mainey andar jana chaha phir tumhari gairat ka mujhe khayal aaya ye sunkar hazrat umar roye aur arz ki YA Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam (Kya) main aapkey jane se gairat karta ?"
Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5896:

And I am about to expose one truth here... I think Genius is Shia, becaause he is keep Trying to attack Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.. And all Shia go against Hazrat Umar Farooq because Shia thinks that Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A mudered Bibi Fatimah R.A. but I do not know the complete details...
Genius if you are not shia can you tell us what is your Kalma ? and what do you think of Hazrat Ali R.A and please only answer this if you claim not to be Shia.

I am sorry guys, topic was about Salman Taseer qatal, laykin topic hi aysa hai k yeh sari batein chal rahi hain... but we were arguing with Shia instead of arguing or discussion Salman Taseer Qatal...

I hope k ab yeh topic wapis apne maqsad par aye ga, agar nahi then it will be closed:

@ Adi: just think/pretend for one minute, k Salman Taseer k Qatal may koi Politics nahi thi. Now reply ....

DoN ager is me politics thi to bhi better hua nai thi to bhi better hua...(this is my personal thinking)
or jis din murder hua i was watching news (it was not PTV) to rehman malik ne khud kaha k ine gustak-e-rasool kerne ki waja se mara hai un k gaurd ne...

ager unhein ye pata bhi chal gaya to wo gov me hain asani se is bat per perda dal sakte they per unhun ne khud hi apne party member ki sachai batai to i was shoked n then mere zehn me shak aya k may be its politics...
rahi bat mumtaz kadri ki to me un k jazbe or un k ishq ki kaddar kerta hun....

ab sahi kya ya nai to kaafi ulama like saudi news n yaha uae me bhi kafi muftio ne kaha k sahi nai kia...kafi kehte hain sahi kia to i dont know k sahi kia ya nai...

 

[annie qadri]

Kab kia karna hai us ne mar kar allah ko jawab de diya

 

[Atif-adi]

jis ne mara hai wo khud keh raha hai

wo sahi keh raha ok...per wo us waqt duty per laya gaya na ani...to ye sab plan kese kia usne mumtaz kadri to ek aam sa shareef sa parezgari admi hai...is tareeke k plan k piche i think im not sure ...k political reason ho sakta hai...

 

[Atif-adi]

Kab kia karna hai us ne mar kar allah ko jawab de diya

actully me thora off topic hojara hun shayad ...cuz yaha mere dost ne thread is lie lagai hai k kya islamic lihaz se theek kia ya nai... so is bare me me kuch nai keh sakta...

 

[Atif-adi]

Ay dost teri soch par Afsos sad afsos. Ap Hazrat Umar (R.A) Ko salman taseer jaisy insan sy compare kar rahy ho. Hazrat Umar R.A k bary main Hazrat Muhammad SAW ny farmaya tha k mery bad agr koi nabi hota to wo Hazrat Usman R.A hoty. Ek bar sary Sahaba Hazoor SAW k Hujry main dars ly rahy thy jab wapis jany lagy to HAZRAT Muhammad SAW ny farmaya tum log aj yaha sy aisy ja rahy ho jaisy k Aj he Maa k pait sy nikly ho. Or tum Un Sahaba ko Salman Taseer jaisy shaks sy compare kar rahy ho. Plz man apny proof do bt kuch b bolny sy pehly soch liya karo.



Atif ye murder chahy kisi group ny kiya ho ya indiviually ho but jis ny b kiya hai theak kiya hai. Agr ye Murder Politically satha par hua hai tab b jis ny karwaya hai theak karvaya hai. ALLAH k bnaye huye kanoon main tarmeen or Allah k banye huye kanoon ko kalla kanoon bolna plus ek aisy shaaks ka saath dyna jis ny Hamary Rasool Hazrat Muhammad SAW ki shaan main ghustaki ki. So stop talking about this k ye political hai polictical hai. Ye sab dramy hamari Goverment kar rahe hai Salmaan Taseer ki burai ko chupany k liye k ye Political murder hai and as you mention in your above post k PTV ny usy mazhabi bna diya. So, what's the story left behind now!

to buddy me kunsa uski side le raha hun mujhe to personaly wo banda khud pasand nai tha...

 

[Atif-adi]

im missing saviou bro wo hotey to kuch roshni daltey is matter pe...

 

[Toobi]

genius plz kuda k wastay chup kar jaye to behtar hay,q k 1 mardod adme k lie apna iman karab karahay ho?
hosh may aye bhai,plz asa mun say kuch mut nikalay jis say hamaray iman ko katra hojaye,

 

[annie qadri]

actully me thora off topic hojara hun shayad ...cuz yaha mere dost ne thread is lie lagai hai k kya islamic lihaz se theek kia ya nai... So is bare me me kuch nai keh sakta...

ok aur mujhe to itna gussa aaraha hai aap par

 

[Toobi]

[/COLOR]tooba khan se meri guzaarish hai k tehzeeb k daiera meiN rehte huve baat kareiN , meiN na to badtahzeeb logoN se bat karta hooN na unko bardaasht karta hooN ,meiN deen k havale se koi bhi baat solid proof aur reference k sath karta hooN , agar aap daleel k sath baat nahiN kar sakteiN to khamosh rahye aur apni "sukhan e nayaab" ko apni hadd tak mehdood rakheiN.

mohdbin qasim aur tooba , apke tamam tarr savalaat k jawab meri above post meiN mojood heiN.[/QUOTE]

oh mr genius agar ap tameez k daieray may bat nae kar saktay to baraye meharbani chalay jaye yaha say,tum shiya ho or jantay ho na k shia kis daieray may atay hay?
or rahe gostahki ki bat to mr. manay b kud apnay kano say suna hay ap shiya kis tara hamaray payaray nabi k payaray shabah ki shan e aqdas may tooheen kartay hay,
Allah hamay salman taseer or is jesay mosalmano k nam par dhaba jesay logo say bachaye,
Allah o akbar,

 

[Toobi]

to buddy me kunsa uski side le raha hun mujhe to personaly wo banda khud pasand nai tha...

adi plz may jante ho k tumay ziada kuch nae pata is baray may,so plz agar comments daynay hay to apni zameer ki awaz say do,na k koe kuch b kahay to tum usk peechay chul paro...

 

[Toobi]

Are you drunk or something? No, seriously, how dare you to compare Salman Taseer with Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.... Hazrat Umar Farooq wo thay jin ko Hazrat Muhammad SAW nay duniya may jannat ki basharat di thi:
"Jaber Radi allaho anho se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam ne farmaya mein jannat mein gaya aur wahan ek ghar ya mahal dekha mainey pucha ye kiska hai ?logon ne kaha ye Umar bin khattab radi allaho anho ka hai mainey andar jana chaha phir tumhari gairat ka mujhe khayal aaya ye sunkar hazrat umar roye aur arz ki YA Rasoollallah Sallallahao alaihey wasallam (Kya) main aapkey jane se gairat karta ?"
Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5896:

And I am about to expose one truth here... I think Genius is Shia, becaause he is keep Trying to attack Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A.. And all Shia go against Hazrat Umar Farooq because Shia thinks that Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A mudered Bibi Fatimah R.A. but I do not know the complete details...
Genius if you are not shia can you tell us what is your Kalma ? and what do you think of Hazrat Ali R.A and please only answer this if you claim not to be Shia.

I am sorry guys, topic was about Salman Taseer qatal, laykin topic hi aysa hai k yeh sari batein chal rahi hain... but we were arguing with Shia instead of arguing or discussion Salman Taseer Qatal...

I hope k ab yeh topic wapis apne maqsad par aye ga, agar nahi then it will be closed:

@ Adi: just think/pretend for one minute, k Salman Taseer k Qatal may koi Politics nahi thi. Now reply ....

don bhai kia hogiya hay hamaray hokmarano ko,kabe qadyani logo ko musalman kehlanay par tulay howay hay to kabe Allah or rasool (saw)k qanoono ko katam karnay may lagay howay hay?
or ye shia aqaied k log hamaray nabi k paray or pak sahaba ki shan may gostahki kartay rehtay hay or hum pir b chup hay?
is tread ko close he kar day,q k kum say kum yaha kise may b itne jurrat nae hone chahye k wo hamaray shaba ki zatt par keehchar ochalay,