Jin-naat Ki Pehchan

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HaRrIz

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sakinaa Churail Hai Par LAgti Nahi Hai Dekho is type ki b churail hoti hain:d
 

Zia_Hayderi

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Aap ko kia haq hey meri observations ko ghalat kehney ka?
Aap apney aala tareen hazrat k farmanbardar rahaiN,maiN ney roka to nahi?
Aap mujhey bataiN k kab maiN ney kaha k inn batoN ka islam sey koi ta'luk hey?
Saboot kioN doN jab maiN ney koi dawa nahi kia?
Aap ka islam aap ko mubarak lekin maiN ney ye bataiN islam klehaz sey nahi sirf rohaniyat related likhi heN aur zaroori nahi k rohaniat ki her baat islaam k mutabiq ho.
pehley socho pher bolo, agar aap kisi baat ko daleel sey prv nahi kar saktey to better to keep silent. Ek writer k lain yeh baat or bhi zaroori hojati he k woh mustanind baat krey
 

atul32

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jin insaan ko sajda kare....why so? what wrong he has done...kya insaan jyada behtar hai jinna se...and even if it is so why to press somebody to bow his head in front of someone for whom his heart does not permit...and if he is forced to bow his head will it be right and true sajda or he will be just fooling to insaan that he surrendered..and will unconciously always try to find the way to take revenge of this.......
 

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Zaati Raye

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Jinnat aur Insaan
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[/size]Jin wo wahid makhlooq hey jis ney insaan ko sajda karney sey inkaar kya tha.Phir isey mohlat di gai k apna behtar hona sabit karey.Qayamat tak isey waqt dya gaya.Aur insaan ki tarah isey bhi dunya maiN aana para.
Quran o hadees sey sabit hey k shetan (Jin) shar phelata hey.Lekin iss k tariqa e wardaat sey agha rehna ziada tar zaroori nahi samjha jata.
Bey had zaroori hey k hum apney azli dushman ko pehchan laiN.......Apni rooh ki pehchan oss waqat tak mumkin nahi jab tak apney wahid dushman k barey maiN maloom na ho.
Shetan ek jin hey magar ye male hey ya female?
Shetan borai phela raha hey aur hadees k mutabiq jab tak Allah Allah karney wala ek bhi shakhs dunya maiN hey qayamat nahi aiey gi...to kya shetan khud neki ko mita kar qayamat ko qareeb la raha hey?
Sab sey pehla marhala shetan ko pehchanney ka ye hey k wo kis waqt hamarey jism maiN male/female ki soorat maiN aata hey......!(Hamara jism shetan k liey ek ghar ki tarah hey aur iss maiN rehney waley shetan ko hum pehchan saktey heN.Jab ye 4 kaam right hand sey hoN to jismmaiN mojod jin "Female" hey:
-Taharat yani astanja etc
-Naak saaf karna
-PaoN dhona aur khilal
-Joota othana

Aur jab yehi 4 kaam left hand sey hoN to jism maiN mojod shetan male hey.
Hamarey jismmaiN rehney wala shetan hamari marzi ka bhi ho sakta hey........yani male aur female ki pehchan k baad jisey aap ka zehan ijazat dey wo jism maiN mojod rahey ga....jab tak hamari ijazat ho gi.
Hamara jism Shetan k liey male ya female ho sakta hey .Agar ghusal k baad oper ka libaas pehley pehen lia jaiey to hamara jism shetan k liey Female jism ho ga....aur agar ghusal k baad neechey ka libaas pehley pehna gaya to hamara jism shetan k liey male jism ho ga.(Ye sab meri zaati raiey/khayal aur tajarbaat heN....Iss liey inn khayalat ko Quran o hadees sey sabit nahi kya ja sakta.)

Aap ne kaha yeh aap ki zaati raye hai to yeh baat aap ko uper likhni chaiye thi, bohat se log aadha post parhtay hai aur un ka Aqeeda Kharab ho jaata hai

Barah-e-Meharbani Islam se realted issues main apni zaati raye denay se pehlay kisi aalim se pooch lein, warna aap ka aur doosron ka EEMAN bhi kharab ho sakta hai

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Kya eeman kharab ho sakta hai? Jo kharab ho jaye kya wo imaan tha?so much fear? Who are these aalim who come between me and god? They are not zaati ray but simple questions and if anybody knows then he can answer...but he should write like a innocent child,without conditioned mind..to see the truth as it is..not told truth or taught truth...
 

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Meray pyaray dost Eeman kharab bilkul ho sakta hai , kuyn ek yeh Eman se hi related hai, Shaitan male aur female honay in bhai ke mutabiq maaan lien left aur right hand se to yeh bhi to koi soch saktahia ke bacha hia, boorha hai, jawan hai ya pagal hai

Male ho, ya Female ho donon ka kaam behkana hai, Male ya Female honay se power main farq nahi ho jaye ga dost.

Jab insan peda hota hai to us ke saath bhi ek Shaitan peda hota hai jis ko HUMZAAD kehtay hain, aur jab yeh bachay ko choota hai to is ke choonay bacha rota hai, paidaish ke waqt bachay ki ronay ki wajah hi yehi hoti hai dost, aur Humzaad ke lye HOTA HAI ka word use hoa hai na ke HOTI HAI

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dear brother..
so much taught and read words....no experience of ur own...i m writing all these so that true faith can develop...and true faith can develop only when false belief drops...when u dont know anything then u r succumbed to belief...when u know then there is no question of belief....like 1+1=2 this is correct because u know...even if whole world say it is 3 ur faith will not be shattered bcoz u know it is 2...if faith is shattering then inside there are doubts in ur heart of which u r not concious about...and further if someone says believe that 1+1=2 then u may say it is foolish to believe i know it is 2 there is no question of belief...so first step towards allah is to recognize that faith develops after knowing the things and not blind faith...and for knowing u have to be unbiased first..in ur thoughts,deeds etc..so that u could recognize the truth as it is...without conditioned,taught mind..we have to see like a child..full of innocence...
 

Hamid

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ya, you are right brother, but if someone is new to Islam he will not understand it correctly and will be misguided.

Anyways, nice thinking
 

atul32

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brother...
can i ask one question...why one should understand islam or any other religion....Is life has been given to understand islam or so called other religions and then die for it...or life has been given to understand life...this very life of flowers ,relationships,sorrows,defeats,disease...and through it to know that who is source of all life...but we will have to start from life first...
in my opinion every hindu should study islam,tao,buddhism..every muslim should know geeta..bible..zen..withoput being afraid that ur own faith in ur religion will drop..if it is false faith then certainly it will be shattered and it is matter of great courage to break psychological bonds...but from this only true faith will flourish with time...every religion is different kind of flower ..buddha,muhammad,jesus ..all are amazing ..so beautiful ..and if i go in garden how can i say i will see only one flower..i love all..but still one among them who attracts me...and i touch it..take fragrance of it..but without condemnation of other flowers in my deep heart...when i know so many flowers my hearts richness knows no bound...i can accomodate all...
thanks..for tolerating so long and patiently...
 

Hamid

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the thing what you are talking about is something else...
Islam is a complete code of life, first we must learn Islam, or at lest basics of Islam like Oneness of Allah Almighty, Belive in Muhammad Sallallahu Aleh Wassalam as Allah's last messenger, Belive in the Books of Allah Almighty Taurah, Zaboor, Injeel and Quran, Angels, And all the Prophets Alehim us Salam which are approximately 1,24000 (Can be more or less but 1,24000 is approx figure)

Now as a Muslim it is our duty to study Quran, After studying Duran, its good to learn other Religions too Like Christianity, Hinduism, Jewish , Jainism, Sikhism etc

Now come to life, Life is a gift of God to Man and to test who is good and who is bad
Quran is a "Complete Code Of Life" for All Mankind of All Ages

Other books, deal with laws only related to religion and stories, on the other hand Quran is a
"Complete Code Of Life" , you have Law (Religion, Marriages, Divorce, Job, Work, Business, Government, Trade, Battle) , Stories of Prophets like Jesus, Moses, Adman and other Prophets, Prayers, Orders given by God Almighty to Mankind, in short each and everything
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Islam tells us how to live life, Marriages, Contracts each and every thing

Anything more you wanna ask?
 

atul32

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no brother..i dont want to ask...all answers given by u are not your answers...they all are borrowed answers given by leaders,scriptures etc..u have just reproduced them for me...i was expecting answer from u...as a human and not as muslim...and everybody is first human and then muslim sikh etc...the matter u wrote can be discussed in each word in depth but it will not help...u know only about muslim in depth but how much u know about other religions in depth...and when u dont know other things in depth how will u able to decide what person should do first..muslim,sick or christian...
 

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Thanks for comment, I know about Christianity and I am learning about more Religions,

The questions I have answered, is from other scriptures as well as its my "own point of view"
 

atul32

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it is great that u are learning and inclined to learn other systems too...? but always remember: To know about something is not to know it....to know about flowers ..is different then knowing flowers...
 

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sorry 2 say..but aap ki batain to bongian lag rahi hain mujhe..kapray aise pehno to yeh hai..waisay pehno to woh hai..superstitious..do u have any reference ya khali bongian aur chawlian maarne k liye aik thread waste kiya..{(wacko)}..aainda koi bhi islamic thread post karne se pehle zaroor uski chaan bheen kiya karen..
 

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so reference is required....whatever u see by urself,learn by urself...it is all idiotic....as long as other so called great person doesnt endorse it...u donot have value ..those leaders have values...these is the result of all those teachings which are solely depending on faith on god rather than knowing the god...of course faith is the one way to know god but it is not the only way...and 60 percent are not heart oriented people but brain oriented...
my writings are neither islamic nor hindu.....and truth cannot be muslim or hindu.....can it be? so why i should refer to scriptures...life is in front of me ..and god has given me eyes to see and mind to understand...but u say dont listen to ur mind or eyes..ask leaders/scriptures about it...what they say is correct what u understand or see may not be correct...the leaders may be correct but that truth will not belong to me bcoz it will be somebody else's truth ..if i commit mistake at least i will be honest deeply in my heart to give value to myself....
JIS INSAAN KO APNE PE VISHWAS NAHIN ..US INSAAN KO APNE VISHWAS PE VISHWAS KAISE HOGA...
i m not here to shatter someone's faith but to support in their faith ..bcoz i love all religions..not merely in words ..
 

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itni bari chawal . kaun ho yaaar aaap jinon ma PHD ki ha kia
ya allah yeh kaun loog hain jin ko kuch bhi nhi pata hota aur aa kar bakwass kar ka chalay jatay hian
qayamat ka waqt kareeb hai kyon k jitnay muu utni batain . Gehri baat ha sochna zara
 

atul32

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probably i m too tough to understand or entirely wrong.....may be...but these thoughts are my reality...however they may be false...
sorry for writing so long on this site...and making all of u bore...
thanks ...i had a good time here...
 
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